In Which I Do A Meme: Top Shippings

[zelda_queen]

Snagged from ladyhadhafang! I do love a good shipping. ^_^



Top 10 Shippings Overall

1.  Amy/Rory, Doctor Who

2. Beast/Belle, Beauty and the Beast.

3. Mitchell/Annie, Being Human (until Mitchell goes insane, that is :( )

4. Elder/Amy, Across the Universe (yes, there's a pairing in a current YA novel I like. Insanity! :O ) 

5. Flynn Rider/ Rapunzel, Tangled

6. Tohru Honda/ Kyo Sohma, Fruits Basket

7. Harry/ Ginny, Harry Potter

8. Germany/ Italy
 
9. Sailor Moon/ Tuxedo Mask

10. Sophie Hatter/ Howl (books and movie both! ^_^)

Top 5 Love Triangles/Threesomes
1.  Hungary/ Austria/ Prussia, Axis Powers Hetalia (as a threesome, because it fits perfectly. Hey, Hungary's already a yaoi fangirl!)

2. Celia/ Marcus/ Isabelle, The Night Circus (as a love triangle, because oh look, actual consequences of the decision! Hello!)

3. Mary/ Matthew/ Lavinia, Downton Abbey (as a love triangle, because the show actually made the other girl sympathetic and nice and didn't have everyone be a bitch to her just because)

4. Bolin/ Korra/ Mako/ Asami (as a love triangle, because again, the other girl is an interesting character who isn't instantly made bitchy or shallow just to make the lead look better. Also, it's nicely underplayed thus far)

5. Viola/Duke/Olivia/Sebastian!Viola (both the original play and the adaptation of She's the Man)

Top 5 Canon Pairings

1. Nina/George, Being Human

2. Tyrion and Shae, Game of Thrones

3. Aang and Katara, Avatar: The Last Airbender

4. Zuko and Mai, Avatar: The Last Airbender

5. Hermione and Ron, Harry Potter

Top 5 "Not my favorite, but they're very nice alternate choices" Shippings

1. Katara/ Zuko (Yes, yes, I know. I hate the pairing written badly, is all.)

2. Hungary/ Prussia

3. Sokka/ Toph

4. Matthew/ Lavinia

5. Tohru Honda/ Yuki Sohma

Top 5 "Wtf that makes no sense... but I LOVE it!" Shippings

1. Zyn/ Leah (Haven't looked at that one too much lately, but dang if I don't love it!)

2. Sands/ Snape (Thank you so very much, Mervin)

3. Marcie Millar/ Nora (At the very least, it makes a fuck-ton more sense than the canon shipping of Nora/ Patch)

4. Hong Kong/ Switzerland (You can blame the dude who wrote the Hearth Series for this one)

5. Egypt/ Lithuania (It was done in an extremely cracky fanfiction, and now I kind of love it)

Top 5 "I just don't feel what everyone else is feelin'" Shippings

1. Belle/ Gaston (Um...way to miss the point of the movie? 8( )

2. Bella/ Streex (Yes. This crossover happened. No, I'm not sure if it's a joke or not)

3.  Switzerland/ Lichtenstein (I know blood relationships are a bit loose in Hetalia, but... Lichtenstein looks like she's about twelve. And calls Switzerland "Big Bruder" pretty much every time they meet. It's just a bit...squicky, is all I'm saying)

4. Belerus/ Lithuania (Erm... the only time they went on a date, she broke his fingers. And come on, the guy's a big enough woobie as it is!)

5. Jareth/ Sarah (Ignoring the age factor, the entire thing is centered around him tricking and victim-blaming her. I could see it as some metaphor for going into adulthood or something, but a straight-up relationship? Erm... O_o)

Top 5 "I hope these die" Shippings

1. Katara/Zuko, How I Became Yours (yes, those two are fanon versions of a Suethor's twisted mind, but they both are such self-centered assholes that I don't feel the least bit sorry about what happens to them in the sequel)

2. Patch/Nora, Hush Hush.

3. Edward/Bella & Christan Grey/ Anna Steele (yes, this might be cheating, but they're honestly the same characters)

4. Karumi/ Hakuron (... Mother. Of. God.)

5. Zoey Redbird/ Loren Blake (Not only is Zoey underage, the fact that she's completely oblivious to the many implications and consequences of going all the way with a teacher just makes it even squickier, somehow!)



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with these shippings (Minus game of thrones and Hetalia,and other series i haven't seen *due to lack of seeing/reading/watching)
who are Karumi and Hakuron?
And Ponds FTW (Moffat better not kill them,or Divorce them :I

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

"who are Karumi and Hakuron?"

They are the main couple of a manga by the title of Haou Airen (roughly translates to "The Supreme King's Mistress"). Basically, Karumi's an everygirl in Japan who saves a creepy/hot dude bleeding and hiding from gang members in an alley. She saves him and he repays her by ordering her to be kidnapped and brought to Hong Kong. You see, he's the incredibly powerful head of the mafia, and wants Karumi to be his woman. Because nothing says "sexy times" like a guy who has killed many people and gets his girlfriend via chloroform.

Also, it's along the lines of Hush, Hush in terms of dub-con. In fact, I'd dare say it's even worse. You can read up on it if you want, but it's REALLY NSFW.

"And Ponds FTW (Moffat better not kill them,or Divorce them :I"

Oh, he'd better not! One of the reasons I love those two is because after the angst and drama with Rose and Martha, we finally got a couple of companions who were happy with being friends with the Doctor, while being in love with each other. It's rare to find happily married characters in TV shows.

(Which reminds me, I should have put Zoe/Wash somewhere on the list of canon ships I love. Ah well. :|)

[chibi-regalli.livejournal.com]

... WHAT? And this isn't portrayed as a REALLY bad thing? WHYYYYYY? *Kersplodes*

[aikaterini.livejournal.com]

Nope. Despite threatening her with a gun if she leaves him, raping her repeatedly, beating up her friend, tearing off her clothes in public without her consent, and a bunch of other horrible things, Hakuron is supposed to be Kurumi’s One True Love. So much so that…(do you mind spoilers?)…

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…at the end, when they decide to get married (no, seriously) and Hakuron is killed on their wedding day, he dies in Kurumi’s arms and Kurumi mourns him and it’s all supposed to be very tragic. No, I’m serious, Kurumi is actually *sad* that the rapist who abducted her, raped her, ruined her life, and constantly put her in danger is dead. And the reader is supposed to be sad as well.

[chibi-regalli.livejournal.com]

*Stares* O-kaaaay, then...

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I read that and between that and the fact that the only reason Kurumi was happy with him was because she was given fucking AMNESIA to forget he raped her, I nearly had an aneurysm. Oh, and according to TV Tropes, a Drama CD has an alternate ending, where Hakuron DOESN'T die, and he and Kurumi end up happily married and with a daughter. Because marrying one's abuser and rapist always ends in blissful matrimony, yes.

Of course, this is from the same manga-ka who wrote about a girl who fell in love with Satan and ended the series with her abandoning being in Heaven to go marry Satan and spend an eternity in Hell as his queen... and this was a happy ending.

[miyuko-matsuda.livejournal.com]

Oh goddamnit D: (On Karumi and Hakuron)
also I didn't watch Doctor who very much before 11's run (I saw Water's of Mar's and liked it enough to see Matt smith..I fell in love around the Christmas carol. (I have gone back to see some of the 9th Doctor eps *Rose is Okay there but i'm not Huge on her) Haven't really seen Martha's eps (Don't forget the SAD that happened with Donna and she wasn't even in love with the Doctor)

[miyuko-matsuda.livejournal.com]

I was the Anon, I forgot to log in sorry about that

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

Np. XD

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

I actually really hate the Korra/Mako/Asami love triangle BECAUSE Asami is such a great character. I mostly hate it because Mako and Korra are going to get together and honestly, it makes Mako look like a giant dick. His girlfriend just lost litterally everything, watching as the last thing she has to remember her life slips away and he...makes a subtle move on Korra. He has stated that his reason for picking Asami was a calculated, logical move, so obviously at some point, he sat down, compared the women and decided Korra came up short BUT he then tries to stop Bolin from making moves.

Mind you, if I felt these were presented as character flaws and someone seriously called him out on it (or maybe, gasp, Korra doesn't get with Mako), my feelings will go away, but I genuinely don't trust the Avatar writers in their romance writing so...yeah.

Still, I like that Asami is NOT hated on in the show and how respectful they are to her. She's a bit of a Mary Sue, but meh, I can handle it because there isn't that much "Let's stop the story to talk about how great she is" in the show.

but with Karumi/Hakuron, I read some other work by the same manga author and loved it as pure, emotional porn. I like dubcon in a purely "Oh god so bad for me but sooooo good" way, but that pairing goes a little too far. Honestly the author's other big work, Sensual Phase, already goes too far (the main character's entire existence is to be hated on then semi-raped by her boyfriend) and this one was much worse. My favorite by the author (again, in a shitty chocolate way) was the one about the virgin pop star trying to make it big. Though I was confused on why the ONLY way she could make it big was through sleeping with people and how she never argued that. In fact, later in the story it's proven wrong, since she does make it big all on her own with no sex involved, just by being cute, likeable and a go-getter. So...pointless plot is pointless? Meh, give me my twinkie.

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I haven't gotten to Eleven yet but my fave Doctor Who pairing is currently Nine/Rose. I'm not sure if I'll like Ten/Rose too (haven't even gotten to him yet either XD, I love Nine so much I stopped watching doctor who so I won't lose him.) but Amy and Rory's relationship is one of the major things that made me want to get into Doctor Who. It sounded fascinating.

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

I personally liked all three Doctors in their own ways. They each had their own distinct mannerisms and characteristics. ^_^

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

Oh I'm sure I will too, I'm just hesitant because when Tennant was the Doctor I really had no interest in the show but as soon as I saw Smith I got really interest and as soon as I saw Eckelson, I was like "Oh, damn, must watch."

Then I know a lot of people dislike Nine and I'm like..."But WHY? He's so cute!" I dunno, he just makes me instant fangirl, and that's kinda rare.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

Don't worry; I quite like Nine as well. He's awesome. :3

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

Yay!

I will admit, I haven't talked to that many Whovians (that's the fanname right?) about that, I just knew he was generally unpopular or at least, not AS popular as Tennent.

Plus, I think that feeling was strengthen because the one friend I've discussed this with seems to not like him. (Dismisses all my reasons why I love Nine, all but ordered me to skip the first year, keeps on talking about how great Tennent is...) So yeah.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

From what I saw, Eccleston's pretty popular. I know some people who wished that he'd stayed on for another season -- and honestly, I can see why. I really like how he played the Doctor -- someone haunted by his experiences in the Time War, justifiably angry, but deeply regretful, and ultimately, loving. I know episodes like "Dalek", "The Doctor Dances", and "The Parting of the Ways", to name a few, really encapsulate these qualities quite well.

I also like some of his more snarky humor as well. And his adorkable moments, like dancing with Rose on the TARDIS, for example. What about you? :)

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

I LOVE his relationship with Rose. It's such a sweet romance that actually uses the old "tortured guy, pure girl" in a nice way. Rose isn't pure because she's a virgin or a sue but because she's young, sheltered human with a LOT of empathy. She reminds him of his better nature and so he feels she makes him better. I love that aspect.

More than that, I love how childishly excited he gets about things, like when he fanboyed over Dickins. Or how happy he was at the end of "The Doctor Dances" because, for once, he felt like he did a purely good thing. Those moments of such emotion and triumph get to me and Eccleston did it well, in my opinion.

So I agree, I wish he got another season.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

This so very much regarding Doctor/Rose. And his fanboying over Dickens. And his "Just this once, everybody lives!" moment. Seriously! :D

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

I know, so cute! And his smile is just...squee worthy.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

Oh God, yes! :D Seriously. :)

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

My brother actually likes Nine the best because he was the most "macho" or something like that. I personally don't think that's the point of the Doctor, but I still like Nine well enough. XD

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

I love all three, really, but especially Nine and Ten. Mostly Nine because of how complex he is (the show did a great job of making him seem like a man who had lost everything) -- angry, haunted by what he did in the Time War, but deeply regretful and ultimately, loving (if that makes any sense). That and Christopher Eccleston is fucking amazing. Or, as Nine would say, "fantastic". :)

And Ten -- well, I quite like him. He's very funny, for one thing, friendly, compassionate...One scene that stands out to me is in "Last of the Timelords", after Martha and co. manage to revive him -- and the Master's terrified, expecting the Doctor to punish him for what he did, but instead, the Doctor says he forgives him and comforts him: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KdeF8eg8bIU. Especially considering what the Master did during the episode -- and the previous one. I'm thinking Ten did it because, in a way, he still saw the boy he used to be friends with on Gallifrey. And a glimpse of what the Master could have been, in "Utopia". Not to mention the Master...I think in a way, he cared about the Doctor as well. For example, the scene in "The End Of Time Part Two" (I believe) where he talks about the time he and the Doctor used to play in the meadows in estates the Master's father used to own. It's definitely one of my favorite dynamics (if not relationships) of DOCTOR WHO, really. #Possibly rambling. Sorry.

Eleven's also pretty cool. I especially like the "Colonel Runaway" speech in "A Good Man Goes To War", and comforting the Krayfayis in "Vincent and the Doctor". Also love his relationship with River, so very much (then again, River Song is amazing, IMHO. :3).

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

Those are all the reasons I love Nine honestly, that you listed. He felt so complex and yet so...desperate to enjoy life that I just fell for him. I have a thing for Stepford Smilers and bad boys(most of my own heroes tend to be both), so he got my character love so quickly.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

This, seriously! :D

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

Really? I know they were ratcheting up the idea that Asami was getting insecure, but I still think that it could go either way. Maybe I'm willfully ignoring it. Ah well, if it's at all like the way it was in the first series, the pairings will be made pretty clear.

(And like I said, I'm just glad that the triangle is downplayed in favor of the actual important stuff that's happening. That's one thing that seriously puts me off of romance in a story, when wangst over it is given more attention than the flipping plot)

I never read any of her other works. I only know about that one because Shaolina sporked some of it. I continued on out of morbid curiosity and saw that not only did Hakuron kidnap an unsuspecting girl and refuse to take her home, but when she leaves to go earn money to fly back to Japan and nearly gets raped in the process, he calls her an idiot and blames her for it. He says something like "I would have given you the money if you would have asked!" and I wanted to strangle him through the pages, while screaming "SHE ALREADY DID ASK YOU!!!"

Then, I went onto Wikipedia and read what he does to her, and how the manga-ka patched it all over to get to the "happy ending" she was angling for. Yeah. :/

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

I tend to focus on romance and analyze it because a) I LOVE romance plots and b) trying to write romance plots so always seeing what feels right and wrong but to me, it feels pretty clear that Korra and Mako will get together. It's actually why Bolin/Korra got such a strong approval from me until recently because I REALLY like Mako and Asami, and I want Asami to be happy, but not I kinda am eh on both boys as romantic suitors. (Bolin seemed really selfish in the last episode with his "Oh you shouldn't get upset that your boyfriend kissed another girl and enver mentioned it because the most important thing is I'M over it" comment.)

BUT I do agree with you on how they downplay it. I really enjoy that about Korra in general, she makes stupid kid show character mistakes...then learns from them. Get arrested for tearing up the town? Next time goes to the police. Have strong evidence that a guy everyone likes could be bad? Tell your mentor so it gets the proper attention. She learns and thinks and refuses to back down but still gets scared and makes mistakes. I really like all that of her.

With that mangaka, she is best enjoyed with a giant grain of salt. I honestly couldn't finish that story because it go too violent and awful, while most of her other work skirted in the wrong side of unhealthy so it's enjoyable in that it-hits-kinks-and-I'm-not-taking-it-seriously way. Still, I 100% understand people who hate her because...yesh.

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

XD Yeah, romance tends to be one of the things I focus less on when watching something. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I like a good bit of romance, but I don't like unnecessary angst or when there's a lot of focus on a love triangle when there ought to be more attention on important things. That's why I didn't mind the romance in the first series as much. I get the complaints, but at least Aang, Katara, Zuko, Mai, and everyone else were able to step away from their romantic woes to focus on the fight with the Fire Nation. (Inversely, this is also one of the many reasons that I hate the romances of books like Twilight, The Mortal Instruments series, or Hush, Hush. They're bad romances already, but the Suethors have the characters bitch endlessly over who loves who, instead of the actual freaking plot)

I really do love Korra. XD I was a bit worried when her character was first introduced, because I've noticed that a lot of people fall into the trap of thinking that a fiery or hot-blooded character = a bitchy or overly whiny character. Korra had her bad moments, but they were supposed to be flaws and she has to learn to deal with them. She also really is smart and cares a lot about her friends. I love watching her. ^_^

Oh yeah, I don't mind works that are supposed to be kinky and are not pitched as anything else. That's why I love Fruits Basket so much. It's supposed to be pure shoujo goodness and never pretends to be anything else. Like aikaterini said above though, the series end tried to play it straight with Hakuron as Karumi's True Love, despite the horrible things he did to her. What happens to him at the end is supposed to be very sad, that Karumi didn't get to marry her rapist and abuser. If the series was written to be about an abusive relationship then...well it wouldn't have been my cup of tea, but at least the manga-ka wouldn't have been trying to pass it off as anything else.

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

What Twilight does right is it IS a romance series. What it did wrong was literately everything else. Mind you, I am confused on why Meyer who doesn't seem interesting plot decided to add one to her books. Twilight (the actual first book) is awful but you know, it's a love story with the love story (supposedly) driving the tension. The stupid out of nowhere climax is stupid but...yeah. The Mortal Insterment Series is one driven by a romance...but isn't a romance book. It's just a book with romance, which is fine, but then don't treat the romance as end all be all. Hunger Games has a strong romance sub-plot but it's kept where it's belong. Any added important is because of CHARACTER focus and flaws. (Like Gale deciding declaring his love > not having Katniss killed by the Captiol in book two). When it actually really steps into the plot in book 3 it's for CHARACTER reasons so more acceptable.

And why the less of focus in Avatar works. My main issue with Avatar writers is that their romance has two speeds, none and OMG I'm in love. Aang's feelings for Katara tend to disappear when not plot relevant and her importance to him will jump up or down to suit the plot. It's ESPECIALLY painful in Korra when Episode 2 Korra and Mako have some ship tease moments and then episode 5(I think, the shipping episode) BAM she's been in love with him since she came to the city. And hey, what do you know, Mako ALSO has feelings for her. Feelings never really shown. This is literately told to us by the voice over. We aren't shown either of them falling even into mild like and now it's bam love.

But mind you, this is complaints from a very opinionated spot. As a romance writer and lover, it bugs me when emotions jump from 0 to 100 like that but it's a perfectly logical way for a kid's show to be written. It's just the Avatar writers are more than willing to just MAKE a character desperate rather than building up desperation. They are great writers but emotional consistency has always been an issue for them (imo, I've seen people who find the character extremely emotionally consist ant.)

I do love Korra's character though. She feels tough without feeling like a "feminist" character. She really does feel like a female version of the average anime "hot blooded hero". Gender doesn't feel like a part of her character. Even in the romance, she and Bolin are remarkably similar in their romantic pursuits (aggressive but not forceful) and it shows that Korra is a PERSON and that's wonderful. She's flawed but learning, enjoyable to watch, passionate, strong and smart when she needs to be. It's wonderful to see that in kid's animation.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

*Squees at the mentions of the Ponds and Flynn/Rapunzel, as well as Beast/Belle*

On a sidenote, so agreed regarding FIFTY SHADES OF GRAY. I just heard about it from a friend, and even then, I was like, "No, God no. Just...no." And that's probably putting it mildly. *Eagerly awaits upcoming spork*

[das-mervin.livejournal.com]

I'm just going to leave this here.

[ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com]

Awesome! :D *Makes note to read*

[erikalyndis.livejournal.com]

*snags this meme*

[aikaterini.livejournal.com]

/Beast/Belle, Beauty and the Beast./

Yes! :D

/Sophie Hatter/ Howl (books and movie both! ^_^)/

I’ve only seen the movie, but I agree, Sophie and Howl are sweet. ^^

Yay for Zyn/Leah!

/Belle/ Gaston (Um...way to miss the point of the movie?/

I have seen fanfics where Belle and Gaston get together specifically after Gaston learns to grow up and change (i.e. basically what the Beast does). But yeah, even with that scenario, this couple is not my cup of tea at all, to put it lightly. And I love Beast (Adam)/Belle too much to like either of them with anybody else.

I like Katara/Zuko, so maybe I’m better off *not* reading “How I Became Yours.”

As for the rest of the “I hope these die” picks, I totally agree!

[chibi-regalli.livejournal.com]

Here's the highlights: Mai gets bloodbent to death in broad daylight (Note that this predates Korra), which is seen as a good, heroic act the perpetrator pulls, and she is treated as the villain even though she has a point why Zuko and Katara getting together would be problematic. Zuko and Katara spend all their time wangsting and have nothing in common with their canon counterparts. Zuko beats Mai before leaving her. Toph wears pretty dresses all the time and doesn't mind that she was turned into a girly-girl with nothing in common with her former self. Sokka ends up with AZULA. Who has amnesia, turning her into a clone of Yue. During a sex scene, Aang appears to go into the Avatar State. Aang is the least useful character in the thing. Aang found a remaining tribe of Air Nomads, who he abandons. Zuko abandons the Fire Nation for four months to hang out with his girlfriend at the Bei Fong estate. Sokka and Katara are, for some reason, prince and princess of the Water Tribes now. AZULA IS A PURITY SUE, and Zuko and their mother talk about how she's so much better this way (an amnesiac, recall), implying that yes, Azula was right and her family never loved her. The one thing people actually like about it is Sho, Mai's inexplicably-existing older brother, who's cool, sexy, and trying to kill the Sue-Wraiths that were once canon characters.

Oh, and a lot of it's been traced wholesale- drawings matching up line for line with screenshots from the show levels of "traced wholesale". And full of spelling mistakes. And has nothing to do with the actual canon verse.

[aikaterini.livejournal.com]

/Mai gets bloodbent to death in broad daylight (Note that this predates Korra), which is seen as a good, heroic act the perpetrator pulls/

WHAT? D:

/Zuko beats Mai before leaving her./

0_0

/Toph wears pretty dresses all the time and doesn't mind that she was turned into a girly-girl with nothing in common with her former self./

...

Dear Lord. Now I'm *really* glad that I never read this. This sounds horrible! Unbelievably horrible!

[chibi-regalli.livejournal.com]

Apparently the only people who like it are the REALLY hardcore Zutara fans/Mai bashers.

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

"she is treated as the villain even though she has a point why Zuko and Katara getting together would be problematic"

Don't forget the double standard. -_- It's perfectly fine for Katara and Zuko to throw aside all of their responsibilities and be jerks in the name of their love, but when Mai is understandably pissed that she was thrown over and lied to about her husband having an affair? Oh, well that's just crossing the line, beyotch!

[chibi-regalli.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes. It's just abysmal.

[zelda-queen.livejournal.com]

"I’ve only seen the movie, but I agree, Sophie and Howl are sweet. ^^"

They are! :D And even though Sophie had self esteem issues, she still never let Howl be a brat. And even though Howl was childish and narcissistic, he still appreciated Sophie and really did think she was beautiful and capable.

"I have seen fanfics where Belle and Gaston get together specifically after Gaston learns to grow up and change (i.e. basically what the Beast does). But yeah, even with that scenario, this couple is not my cup of tea at all, to put it lightly. And I love Beast (Adam)/Belle too much to like either of them with anybody else."

Oh yeah, I could kind of see that. But I agree, I'm too fond of Adam/Beast and Belle together. ^^

"I like Katara/Zuko, so maybe I’m better off *not* reading 'How I Became Yours.'"

You really are, or at least you should hold off until the sporking. Jackie Diaz is the Avatar equivalent of those batshit Harmonian shippers, except she deals in visual formats.

[lady-fofa.livejournal.com]

Ooh, a sporking of How I Became Yours, can't wait for that. (Granted, I wanted to do that but you would probably do it better than I could.)

[mancalledtrue.livejournal.com]

My major problem with Jareth/Sarah... There's a picture of Jareth in Sarah's room during the intro. In the grand scheme of the Labyrinth, he's modeled on her stepdad.

Normally I don't mind incest vibes, but not when they involve David Bowie! That's a level of weird I just don't need!

No problems with the rest of your list, aside from my general dislike of Moffat-era Who (thanks for draining all the mystique from the Weeping Angels, Moff...).

[flamefire124.livejournal.com]

I never liked Jareth/Sarah...except in the Girls Next Door/Roommates universe. I didn't grow up with Labyrinth, so to me, Bowie was just some weird, make-up wearing guy in too tight pants (not my appeal) and Sarah was a little girl. I liked her more with that puppet (forgot his name, sorry, the grumpy one that she kissed and so they all got sent to the Bog). While I get why he isn't a popular ship (not handsome, not human looking and not well-endowed) that relationship was much sweeter.

But in Girls Next Door and Roommates (the DA-comics), they have a really great arch going and especially in Girls Next Door, Jareth comes off as younger acting and far more vulnerable and Sarah comes as more mature and in control. (That and after years of comics, they've barely made it to "Let's talk to each other civilly and MAYBE try to be slightly flirty friends" level. The comic does not ignore the implications of the movie, it's also a large comedy so you're willing to let things slide.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you on the Jareth/Sarah thing. I've only ever seen that done right once, in a fascinating story about the consequences of saying that her kingdom was as great as his (she then acquires said kingdom, making them equals). It only ever really works if there is something to equalise their dynamic, and even then, it's iffy.

[thelovelymissa.livejournal.com]

I so agree with you on the Belarus/Lithuania thing. (Not because I'm a Lithuania/Poland fan. Okay, maybe a little). She's so obsessed with Russia that I don't know what they're seeing.

I hate how intense the shipping wars got in Avatar. The Zutara fans got mad because of the ending, and the Kataang fans got mad because of the Zutara fans getting mad. I was a fence-sitter and decided just to go with whatever the writers wanted. It was better to stay out of it.