Betrayed: Chapter 1
Apr. 25th, 2011 09:54 pmZeldaQueen: *cracks knuckles* Let's just get started
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Chapter 1
Alright, here we go! Will this be as bad as Marked, or at least provide as many laughs? Only one way to find out!
We start off in the cafeteria, with everyone eating…something. I’m not entirely sure what meal it is. Anyway, Shaunee and Erin comment on how there is a new student who is the roommate of someone named Sarah Freebird. For some reason, Shaunee refers to the new student as “Tragic, Twin, just tragic”, and I have no idea why. We get absolutely nothing about her that comes across as “tragic”. The only thing I can think of is if they think it’s too bad she turned into a vampire, but being a vampire in this world is pretty much only good things, so why would they care? None of them mind being vampires! Oh, and if you’re worried that you’ve never heard of this Sarah girl before, don’t be. This is the first time she’s ever been mentioned. Apparently she has dark hair and is petite and, according to Damien, she has a very bad sense in fashion, particularly shoes. And of course he’d know all about fashion, because we’re immediately told how he’s gay, gay, gay, gayer than Paris in the spring, and so on and so forth.
We’re also introduced to one of the precious few other character traits that Damien has, which is his tendency to use “big” words. I put big in quotes, because most of what he uses shouldn’t warrant the amount of confusion that these idiots show. Just to prove me right, Damien starts talking about Sarah’s “unfortunate ugly shoe propensity” and Erin and Shaunee immediately go on about how annoying it is that he’s using words like that, gawd. At this point, we also get Erin and Shaunee’s most prominent trait hammered in - that they are twins in spirit or something like that. An interesting concept to be sure, but it’s written like bad fan fiction writers handle Fred and George, having them finish their sentences, agreeing like those two “No, no, I insist” rodents from Looney Tunes, and calling each other “Twin” every other sentence. It quickly gets very annoying, I can assure you.
Damien gets pissed at them and makes a legitimate point, that if they actually expanded their damned vocabularies, they wouldn’t be so bothered. We’re told that he was “looking offended and superior and gayer than he usually looked (even though he is definitely gay)” in case we somehow forgot that he was gay.
Stevie Rae pipes up, and we’re instantly beaten over the head with how she has a heavy Oklahoma “twang”, how she sounds like a hillbilly, and so on and so forth. She gives dictionary definitions for “propensity” and “abysmal” (another “big” word that Damien has used) and tells them to knock it off because it’s parent visitation soon and they shouldn’t be “acting like retards” when their parents arrive.
So basically it seems that the House of Night has designated events where families can go and meet with their children. This is actually an interesting idea. Apparently Zoey and most of her group have forgotten about it though, and Damien instantly drops his eyes and goes all Drama Llama because woe, his parents will surely show up and they are so disappointed in him because he’s gay as a tree full of chickadees. He’s all depressed though because it’s his birthday this month, so they’ll definitely show up to bring him his present. He’s…depressed because his parents are coming to visit and bringing him a present? Wah…? Oh, right, this ties in to him being gay, because Zoey suggests that they’ll get him the art supplies he has been wanting (because…apparently besides cross-stitching, Damien is also a painter?) and he says that the last time he asked for art supplies for a gift, he was given camping supplies and a subscription to Sports Illustrated, because Manly Men like that sort of thing.
We’re just five pages in and I already find it impossible to take this book seriously. Jesus Christ.
Zoey, meanwhile, takes the opportunity to angst and remind us that woe, her mother has married a straw fundamentalist by the name of John Heffer who is ugly and evil and hateful and missing a third dimension. As a result, she’s not looking forward to the event either.
At this point, Sarah (remember her?) and her roommate Diana show up for introductions. We’re instantly reminded that yes, Zoey is the leader of the Dark Daughters, and Diana instantly starts gushing over her filled-in Mark and tattoos. Even though she’s new and presumably shouldn’t see why that would be so odd. For all she knew, Zoey just visited a tattoo parlor on the weekend. Zoey, for her part, goes on about how it’s so usual for people to stare at her Mark, woe is her, and “I kept my smile in place, trying to make her feel better, even though I truly hated that it seemed like I was the main attraction at a freak show. Again”. *sourly* Oh yes, you’re just such a freak there, what with your tasteful and beautiful tattoos. It’s a wonder you aren’t forced to wear a bag on your head when you go outside. Just a modern-day Quasimodo, huh?
This moves to everyone talking about how Zoey got thosescars tattoos, specifically how she fought the ghost-things. Wait, that’s public knowledge? Stevie Rae describes Zoey’s contribution to that event as “kicking butt”. You know, when she just stood there. Anyway, Sarah and Diana go off, but not before formally saluting Zoey. Zoey expresses discomfort at this and her friends instantly start blathering about how powerful and special and unique and shiny Zoey is. They then ask if Zoey has any ideas for the Dark Daughters and she has none. Because, you know, she set about trying to get rid of Aphrodite and apparently forgot about this bit. Idiot.
So yeah, it’s time for them to meet with their parents. Stevie Rae’s mother shows up, and is pretty much an Oklahoma-flavored rip-off of Mrs. Weasley, complete with being plump, bringing food for everyone, and instantly more or less adopting Zoey as her own. Even though, you know, she and Zoey have never met before in their lives.
Damien goes off to meet his parents and is hugged by his mom and has his hand shook with “exuberant masculinity” by his father.
And then Zoey’s parents show up and this all just gets really stupid and painful. Put on your hardhats, this is getting anvillicious.
Zoey instantly spazes because her stepfather is there. I have no idea why he’d want to come, given that he apparently hates Zoey and vampires alike. Given his extremely stereotypical personality, I can only see him doing it to either pretend to be a good parent or to try to preach to the vampires. Let’s see which it is.
Stevie Rae’s mother sees them as well and decides to go over and say hello. Zoey follows and then sees that her grandmother is there as well. Her grandmother hugs her and starts speaking in Cherokee because that’s what she does. Stevie Rae’s mother starts to compliment Grandma Redbird on what a fine girl Zoey is, and John butts in on how Zoey’s his daughter, so he’s the one who should be complimented. *holds head*
Zoey’s mother steps forward and starts to introduce herself as well, but is interrupted when she sees Zoey’s Mark. She promptly freaks out because oh noes, THE MARK IS FILLED IN! Why does this bother so many people? This is like Meyer’s vampires sparkling in the sunlight - it’s not something that would get this sort of response in real life!
Neferet shows up at this point and starts spouting off on how the Mark was filled in because of the blessings of Nyx and all that noise. She introduces herself to them and we’re beat over the head with how Neferet is just so beautiful and charming that even Zoey’s parents are impressed. Somehow, Zoey’s cat is brought up and John starts to be a jerk because he didn’t give permission for her to have a cat. Zoey is an equal jerk, complaining that no one but her grandmother even bothered to keep in touch with her. I feel I ought to remind everyone that Zoey made no effort to contact anyone herself.
Neferet explains about how cats are free and choose their owners and generally just sounds pompous and hammy. I really don’t blame John for snorting at all of that. Neferet offers drinks and John says no, he and his wife don’t drink, and we’re instantly told how he probably has a six pack of beer in the refrigerator at home. Because he’s Evil.
Grandma Redbird asks for the details on the…erm thrilling tale of Zoey’s Brush With Ghosts. Zoey pauses the plot to recap the last book. The only things I’ll bring up, because they’re worth remembering for later, are that Zoey definitely refers to Heath as her ex-boyfriend and Erik as her “almost-boyfriend”, even though they’ve been dating for a month…wait, it’s been a month since the last book? And she still hasn’t gotten the Dark Daughters thing sorted? What?
*sigh* Okay. So. Neferet gives a cliff notes version of what happened, basically saying that some students got into a dangerous situation and Zoey was so clever and quick-witted *snerk* that she saved the day and was…rewarded by Nyx or something. Heads up folks - those extra tattoos of Zoey’s don’t really contribute anything to the plot. They just pretty much look pretty. I have no idea what’s up with them.
Anyway, being the straw fundie that he is, John starts blathering on about how Nyx is blasphemy, Zoey’s soul’s at stake, etc. Neferet hops up on the ol’ soapbox and starts condemning him for being a narrow-minded bigot who “relegates women to roles that are little more than servants and broodmares, though they are the backbone of your church”. Okay, okay, let’s pause for two things.
First of all, I brought up the bit about the women specifically because if you’ll recall, it was brought up exactly once in the last book that Neferet was sexually abused by her father when she was a child. If that had been better developed, Neferet’s commentary on the treatment of women in the People of Faith church might have been halfway interesting. But it wasn’t so it isn’t.
Second of all, better get this out of the way now, because apparently the Cast ladies can’t be bothered - from what I understand, the People of Faith are meant to be representative of the very worst of organized religion. That is, the Cast ladies didn’t mean to suggest that all churches are like this, and it’s all hyperbole. This apparently will come into play later, when a religious group that’s meant to represent the best of organized religion shows up (and interestingly, that group is Catholic).
That being said? The Cast ladies just handled it badly. It would only have taken a sentence or two to show that these chuckleheads aren’t the norm and that there are other churches that aren’t ridiculously evil. To let your audiences know that you aren’t trying to lump all of a group, you have to actually start with exceptions. And I’m not sure when that exception is supposed to show up, but it sure ain’t this book.
Anyway, I’m sorry about that rant there. I meant to get it off of my chest in the final thoughts of Marked, but I didn’t get a chance.
Back with thestupid plot. Neferet tells John to either be respectful or get the flip out. He launches into a speech to Zoey about how he has washed his hands of her and how she’s on her own from now on. Erm, didn’t we go through this in Marked? Anyway, he and Zoey’s mom go off and Grandma Redbird has to leave as well. Apparently she drove Zoey’s vintage Beetle over and is leaving it with Zoey…because the House of Night has a private parking garage or something. Really, I have no idea where it’s left. There’s more talk about how Zoey has made her Cherokee ancestors proud because Cherokee people are always talking about their honorable ancestors, and then she leaves.
Zoey starts to break down and Neferet hands her a tissue and puts her arm around her and hugs her. This is a rare moment when the Cast ladies actually manage to red herring us and have Neferet look pretty nice. Unfortunately, it doesn’t last very long. Actually, not a few sentences later, Zoey asks Neferet if she ever forgave her father for sexually abusing her and Neferet says that while she hasn’t, he “like most humans, is completely inconsequential”. And we get a lot of stuff on how there’s pain behind Neferet’s eyes, la la la, why didn’t the Cast ladies develop this more? Cliched as it was, it was actually characterization.
Anyway, the chapter’s over, that’s all folks!
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Chapter 1
Alright, here we go! Will this be as bad as Marked, or at least provide as many laughs? Only one way to find out!
We start off in the cafeteria, with everyone eating…something. I’m not entirely sure what meal it is. Anyway, Shaunee and Erin comment on how there is a new student who is the roommate of someone named Sarah Freebird. For some reason, Shaunee refers to the new student as “Tragic, Twin, just tragic”, and I have no idea why. We get absolutely nothing about her that comes across as “tragic”. The only thing I can think of is if they think it’s too bad she turned into a vampire, but being a vampire in this world is pretty much only good things, so why would they care? None of them mind being vampires! Oh, and if you’re worried that you’ve never heard of this Sarah girl before, don’t be. This is the first time she’s ever been mentioned. Apparently she has dark hair and is petite and, according to Damien, she has a very bad sense in fashion, particularly shoes. And of course he’d know all about fashion, because we’re immediately told how he’s gay, gay, gay, gayer than Paris in the spring, and so on and so forth.
We’re also introduced to one of the precious few other character traits that Damien has, which is his tendency to use “big” words. I put big in quotes, because most of what he uses shouldn’t warrant the amount of confusion that these idiots show. Just to prove me right, Damien starts talking about Sarah’s “unfortunate ugly shoe propensity” and Erin and Shaunee immediately go on about how annoying it is that he’s using words like that, gawd. At this point, we also get Erin and Shaunee’s most prominent trait hammered in - that they are twins in spirit or something like that. An interesting concept to be sure, but it’s written like bad fan fiction writers handle Fred and George, having them finish their sentences, agreeing like those two “No, no, I insist” rodents from Looney Tunes, and calling each other “Twin” every other sentence. It quickly gets very annoying, I can assure you.
Damien gets pissed at them and makes a legitimate point, that if they actually expanded their damned vocabularies, they wouldn’t be so bothered. We’re told that he was “looking offended and superior and gayer than he usually looked (even though he is definitely gay)” in case we somehow forgot that he was gay.
Stevie Rae pipes up, and we’re instantly beaten over the head with how she has a heavy Oklahoma “twang”, how she sounds like a hillbilly, and so on and so forth. She gives dictionary definitions for “propensity” and “abysmal” (another “big” word that Damien has used) and tells them to knock it off because it’s parent visitation soon and they shouldn’t be “acting like retards” when their parents arrive.
So basically it seems that the House of Night has designated events where families can go and meet with their children. This is actually an interesting idea. Apparently Zoey and most of her group have forgotten about it though, and Damien instantly drops his eyes and goes all Drama Llama because woe, his parents will surely show up and they are so disappointed in him because he’s gay as a tree full of chickadees. He’s all depressed though because it’s his birthday this month, so they’ll definitely show up to bring him his present. He’s…depressed because his parents are coming to visit and bringing him a present? Wah…? Oh, right, this ties in to him being gay, because Zoey suggests that they’ll get him the art supplies he has been wanting (because…apparently besides cross-stitching, Damien is also a painter?) and he says that the last time he asked for art supplies for a gift, he was given camping supplies and a subscription to Sports Illustrated, because Manly Men like that sort of thing.
We’re just five pages in and I already find it impossible to take this book seriously. Jesus Christ.
Zoey, meanwhile, takes the opportunity to angst and remind us that woe, her mother has married a straw fundamentalist by the name of John Heffer who is ugly and evil and hateful and missing a third dimension. As a result, she’s not looking forward to the event either.
At this point, Sarah (remember her?) and her roommate Diana show up for introductions. We’re instantly reminded that yes, Zoey is the leader of the Dark Daughters, and Diana instantly starts gushing over her filled-in Mark and tattoos. Even though she’s new and presumably shouldn’t see why that would be so odd. For all she knew, Zoey just visited a tattoo parlor on the weekend. Zoey, for her part, goes on about how it’s so usual for people to stare at her Mark, woe is her, and “I kept my smile in place, trying to make her feel better, even though I truly hated that it seemed like I was the main attraction at a freak show. Again”. *sourly* Oh yes, you’re just such a freak there, what with your tasteful and beautiful tattoos. It’s a wonder you aren’t forced to wear a bag on your head when you go outside. Just a modern-day Quasimodo, huh?
This moves to everyone talking about how Zoey got those
So yeah, it’s time for them to meet with their parents. Stevie Rae’s mother shows up, and is pretty much an Oklahoma-flavored rip-off of Mrs. Weasley, complete with being plump, bringing food for everyone, and instantly more or less adopting Zoey as her own. Even though, you know, she and Zoey have never met before in their lives.
Damien goes off to meet his parents and is hugged by his mom and has his hand shook with “exuberant masculinity” by his father.
And then Zoey’s parents show up and this all just gets really stupid and painful. Put on your hardhats, this is getting anvillicious.
Zoey instantly spazes because her stepfather is there. I have no idea why he’d want to come, given that he apparently hates Zoey and vampires alike. Given his extremely stereotypical personality, I can only see him doing it to either pretend to be a good parent or to try to preach to the vampires. Let’s see which it is.
Stevie Rae’s mother sees them as well and decides to go over and say hello. Zoey follows and then sees that her grandmother is there as well. Her grandmother hugs her and starts speaking in Cherokee because that’s what she does. Stevie Rae’s mother starts to compliment Grandma Redbird on what a fine girl Zoey is, and John butts in on how Zoey’s his daughter, so he’s the one who should be complimented. *holds head*
Zoey’s mother steps forward and starts to introduce herself as well, but is interrupted when she sees Zoey’s Mark. She promptly freaks out because oh noes, THE MARK IS FILLED IN! Why does this bother so many people? This is like Meyer’s vampires sparkling in the sunlight - it’s not something that would get this sort of response in real life!
Neferet shows up at this point and starts spouting off on how the Mark was filled in because of the blessings of Nyx and all that noise. She introduces herself to them and we’re beat over the head with how Neferet is just so beautiful and charming that even Zoey’s parents are impressed. Somehow, Zoey’s cat is brought up and John starts to be a jerk because he didn’t give permission for her to have a cat. Zoey is an equal jerk, complaining that no one but her grandmother even bothered to keep in touch with her. I feel I ought to remind everyone that Zoey made no effort to contact anyone herself.
Neferet explains about how cats are free and choose their owners and generally just sounds pompous and hammy. I really don’t blame John for snorting at all of that. Neferet offers drinks and John says no, he and his wife don’t drink, and we’re instantly told how he probably has a six pack of beer in the refrigerator at home. Because he’s Evil.
Grandma Redbird asks for the details on the…erm thrilling tale of Zoey’s Brush With Ghosts. Zoey pauses the plot to recap the last book. The only things I’ll bring up, because they’re worth remembering for later, are that Zoey definitely refers to Heath as her ex-boyfriend and Erik as her “almost-boyfriend”, even though they’ve been dating for a month…wait, it’s been a month since the last book? And she still hasn’t gotten the Dark Daughters thing sorted? What?
*sigh* Okay. So. Neferet gives a cliff notes version of what happened, basically saying that some students got into a dangerous situation and Zoey was so clever and quick-witted *snerk* that she saved the day and was…rewarded by Nyx or something. Heads up folks - those extra tattoos of Zoey’s don’t really contribute anything to the plot. They just pretty much look pretty. I have no idea what’s up with them.
Anyway, being the straw fundie that he is, John starts blathering on about how Nyx is blasphemy, Zoey’s soul’s at stake, etc. Neferet hops up on the ol’ soapbox and starts condemning him for being a narrow-minded bigot who “relegates women to roles that are little more than servants and broodmares, though they are the backbone of your church”. Okay, okay, let’s pause for two things.
First of all, I brought up the bit about the women specifically because if you’ll recall, it was brought up exactly once in the last book that Neferet was sexually abused by her father when she was a child. If that had been better developed, Neferet’s commentary on the treatment of women in the People of Faith church might have been halfway interesting. But it wasn’t so it isn’t.
Second of all, better get this out of the way now, because apparently the Cast ladies can’t be bothered - from what I understand, the People of Faith are meant to be representative of the very worst of organized religion. That is, the Cast ladies didn’t mean to suggest that all churches are like this, and it’s all hyperbole. This apparently will come into play later, when a religious group that’s meant to represent the best of organized religion shows up (and interestingly, that group is Catholic).
That being said? The Cast ladies just handled it badly. It would only have taken a sentence or two to show that these chuckleheads aren’t the norm and that there are other churches that aren’t ridiculously evil. To let your audiences know that you aren’t trying to lump all of a group, you have to actually start with exceptions. And I’m not sure when that exception is supposed to show up, but it sure ain’t this book.
Anyway, I’m sorry about that rant there. I meant to get it off of my chest in the final thoughts of Marked, but I didn’t get a chance.
Back with the
Zoey starts to break down and Neferet hands her a tissue and puts her arm around her and hugs her. This is a rare moment when the Cast ladies actually manage to red herring us and have Neferet look pretty nice. Unfortunately, it doesn’t last very long. Actually, not a few sentences later, Zoey asks Neferet if she ever forgave her father for sexually abusing her and Neferet says that while she hasn’t, he “like most humans, is completely inconsequential”. And we get a lot of stuff on how there’s pain behind Neferet’s eyes, la la la, why didn’t the Cast ladies develop this more? Cliched as it was, it was actually characterization.
Anyway, the chapter’s over, that’s all folks!
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Date: 2011-04-26 02:24 am (UTC)Suauthors are soo sutble and soo not stereotypical to the point of insult! I really wonder if Damien is gay...(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-26 02:29 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-26 05:48 am (UTC)Seriously, Ms. and Mrs. Cast, stop it. It was annoying in the first book and it's annoying here. Yes, Damien is gay. We know that already. We don't need you to pound that fact into our heads every five seconds!
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Date: 2011-04-26 07:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-04-27 05:17 am (UTC)So. Zoey Sue has pulled in all these other characters, and they are part of her story. Damien, for example, keeps wanting to talk about other things, like the ancient history of Russia, but when he opens his mouth all that comes out is "I'm gay!" because Zoey is really an evil fairy. (I just finished Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. But the poor character doesn't have any protection, since he's just a bit player from the well of lost plots, and since the spin-off, there's been division in the backstory and there's no one to save Damien and Stevie Rae and all the rest.
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Date: 2011-04-27 05:30 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-27 11:08 pm (UTC)*beats head into wall*
Aaaaaugh.
Funnily enough, I've been involved in discussion about a game where one of the main characters is gay. I only bring this up because you will literally have no idea about this unless you read supplemental material where the developers just outright state it because nobody picked up on it. The reality is that this character is just who he is and being gay happens to be a part of that. A part that you will literally never see unless you really, really squint, and tilt your head, and already read the supplemental and are explicitly looking for it. Nothing special, nothing stereotypical, just who he is. You know... like actual people actually are. Actually.
You know. Character and character arc first, sexual orientation as part of that, not set aside on a shining pedestal, illuminated in the glare of spotlights, with bombastic music and people pointing to it and shouting in stage whispers "He's gaaaaaaay look at this totally gay INTO OTHER DUDES aren't we progressiiiiive?"
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Date: 2011-04-28 10:32 pm (UTC)Preach it.
Preach it, until the last asshole who stands up during Authors' Meetings and says: "In your book you have this character who's gay... that is all nice and well, but what purpose does it serve?" is obliterated in the fire of our great vengeance and righteous anger.
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Date: 2011-04-26 05:16 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-04-27 05:24 am (UTC)My theories are getting increasingly nonsensical. Even the recaps of this series can't be good for me. (or maybe they ARE! oooooo)
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Date: 2011-04-26 08:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-26 07:09 am (UTC)*begins stockpiling paracetamol*
(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-26 07:49 pm (UTC)I'm very sorry. *offers a hard hat* You'll need it.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-27 04:26 am (UTC)*puts hard hat on and ties firmly under the chin with a shoelace*
Thank you
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Date: 2011-04-26 08:47 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-04-27 05:21 am (UTC)I wonder what they'd think of Private Oliver's brother Paul, who just liked to draw birds. I love that character, and he's got such a bit part.
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Date: 2011-04-27 05:31 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-26 08:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-26 08:34 pm (UTC)Annnnd the stereotypes are back. Fantastic.
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Date: 2011-04-26 10:22 pm (UTC)The stereotypes get worse. I am dead serious.
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Date: 2011-04-27 09:50 am (UTC)Crazy, I know! But I'm picking up on some subtle clues in the text...
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Date: 2011-04-27 02:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-04-27 02:36 pm (UTC)If you are 15-16, a native English speaker in a school of supposed repute and you do not know what "propensity" means, you must have a serious, SERIOUS look at the educational system that allowed you to get this far.
Also, the Casts have never heard of subtlety. In their eagerness to show off their gay character, they're actually harming their original intentions: it's starting to sound kind of offensive.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-27 03:14 pm (UTC)"it's starting to sound kind of offensive."
It started in the last book and it goes way out the window by the end of this one. Just wait until his boyfriend makes the scene. -_-
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Date: 2011-04-27 09:01 pm (UTC)Oh yeah and at the people of faith thing, isn't that very stereotypical of religion? I mean I'm sure there are Christians reading this book who aren't sexist.
Oh and that goes back to your point in the last book: girls are forced to be "maids" just like guys in Neferet's world are forced to be "protecters"
Geez, I can totally get published XD
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Date: 2011-04-27 10:18 pm (UTC)Their depiction of religion in this series is...really skewed. I have to agree with an Amazon reviewer, it might be easier to get past if the writing was better, but it just is terrible soapboxing.
"Geez, I can totally get published XD"
If there's a brooding love interest and vampires, surely. XD Just please, don't give her the power of the five elements or something.
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Date: 2011-04-27 11:16 pm (UTC)Haha sorry no brooding love interest or vampires. Actually, my female characters go a whole book without a love interest! Isn't that absolutely crazy of me??
And actually I do have the five elements, though one character each has one element. No one is really special, unless you count personality being special between each character. Sorry, personality is bad. I forgot.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-27 11:18 pm (UTC)Absolutely bonkers. XD What's your story about, if you don't mind my asking?
(And my protagonist has no love interest either, but then she's about seven)
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Date: 2011-04-28 12:08 am (UTC)Which are the three ethnicities of my characters XD Except that the Hindu and the Japanese girls are only half, cause I'm too cowardice to throw full out multi ethic characters into the publishing world of White protagonist and Love interest. Seriously, the only diversity there was in City of Bones was the scenery, the asian couple making out (of course both people are asian, not interracial of a couple ) and then a black girl gives Clary a ghetto stare....let's not forget Shaunee... I know it sounds a bit early for such things, but I think my story justifies me doing such a bold thing you know?
Lol I'm sorry to ramble...but your protagonist sounds cute. I love books about children actually, fills me with Nostalgia XD
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Date: 2011-04-28 12:13 am (UTC)Inversely, I hate it when a story can't set down clear rules for its magical world. -_-
Aw, thank you! ^_^ Yeah, it's sort of like Alice in Wonderland. And I know what you mean. I love to go back to the books from my childhood. I hope to write something half as good as those. XD
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Date: 2011-04-28 12:28 am (UTC)Yeah, my mythology might not be strict on its origins, but the rules I set in don't get contradicted, which is really important
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Date: 2011-04-28 12:51 pm (UTC)*WHY did the Casts have to shit on Damien even more so? The whole fashion bullshit had to be added to the stereotype sometime, I guess. I don't even recognise this version of Damien, it's so OOC! I wish we had seen more about him interacting with his parents in this chapter. And the whole mention of 'masculinity' every second sentence just made me cringe. Subtle, much? And the fact he's laughed at for having 'learnings' and knows 'big words' shits me too. Of course, anyone who prides themselves on being smart is just a big nerd, aren't they? So fucking shallow.
*Shouldn't Zoey have invested a little more importance and time into the role of Dark Daughters leader or whatever? So much for responsibility.
*I had to laugh with Zoey once again complaining about her Goddamn Mark. She sounds like one of those people who says 'I wish I wasn't so beautiful and attractive and popular! I wish I could be just a bit ugly so I could relate to all the other ugly people! Don't hate me' cos I'm beautiful, I can't help it!' XD
*OMG, Heifer is back!!!! Heifer Fangirl in the house! :D Actually, he really wasn't so funny this time around, although I expected him to kick Zoey's cat, y'know for the evilz :P Even though I love a good ol' crazy fundamentalist in a story, Heifer really has no reason for his bigotry. 'I hate vamps and God hates fangs!' Yeah, and what else, Hef? See, no substance. (Actually, I'm writing about a God-fearing town that has cut itself off from the rest of the world and people escaping, but this town actually has its roots in a real -life concept called Communitarianism, which in itself arose partly from religious values). C'mon, Heifer, be more funny at least! I expected him to be wearing a crucifix and carrying holy water inside the school screaming 'the power of Christ compels you!' XD
*You're right: it would have been a great time for Neferet to make an impassioned speech against Heifer, but, alas, another opportunity wasted in favour of concentrating on Zoey 'LOOK AT MAH SCAR, NO DON'T LOOK AT IT!' Redbird.
*Sarah Freebird? Is she like Zoey Redbird-lite? :D Is that why she's already being hated on?
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Date: 2011-04-29 04:57 am (UTC)At the risk of sounding ominous, just wait until you see how Jack Twist turns out.
"And the fact he's laughed at for having 'learnings' and knows 'big words' shits me too. Of course, anyone who prides themselves on being smart is just a big nerd, aren't they? So fucking shallow."
Yes, because teenagers are all idiots who don't know any words that have more than two syllables. My brother and my English grades must all be lies. -_-
"Shouldn't Zoey have invested a little more importance and time into the role of Dark Daughters leader or whatever? So much for responsibility."
Nonsense, she spent an hour on Google. What more do you want from her? XD
Yeah, that's his first and only appearance in this book. Not sure about later books.
I'm...honestly not sure what's up with Sarah's name. Perhaps the Cast ladies just were looking out the window when they named these characters and were like "Oh look! A bird! Zoey Redbird! Oh look! Another bird! Sarah...Freebird! :D"
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Date: 2011-04-29 04:29 am (UTC)I can't believe that Damien is not a parody. He is the epitome of everything wrong with chick-lit treatment of gays.
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Date: 2011-04-29 04:59 am (UTC)I wish he was a parody, I really do.
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Date: 2013-01-18 11:09 pm (UTC)Oh, and poor Zoey, what with her gorgeous tattoo and mark that sets her apart. *gasp* How ever will she survive?
Good Lord, Harry wasn't that way about his scar. He originally even liked it, it was mentioned in the first book. The attention made him uncomfortable, sure, but you didn't see him sitting around lamenting about it. How on earth are we supposed to like any of these characters? Seriously!