Hush, Hush: Chapter 11
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zelda_queenZeldaQueen: In which Nora's IQ continues to drop
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Chapter 11
ZeldaQueen: Nora is in Biology class, and astonishingly we do not get some incredibly sexist talk form the teacher. Instead, she notes with anxiety that Patch isn't in class and could very well have something to do with Vee's attack. There's another part of her that dismisses those thoughts and while I know that Fitzpatrick has a point when she says that there are a million legitimate reasons that Patch could be skipping class, by this point in the story I'd think he's just as likely to skip class to attack a girl as he would be to call out sick.
At the end of class, the teacher gives Nora a note from one Miss Greene. Nora is confused, as the school has no Miss Greene teaching, but apparently this woman has taken over as the new psychologist and is sending Nora a note to come and make up those two therapy sessions she missed. Nora trots on over to the office, and we are abruptly introduced to Miss Greene
"Miss Greene had flawless pale skin, sea blue eyes, a lush mouth, and fine, straight blond hair that tumbled past her elbows. It was parted at thecrown of her oval-shaped face. A pair of turquoise cat's-eye glasses sat at the tip of her nose, and she was dressed formally in a gray herring bone pencil skirt and a pink silk blouse. Her figure was willowy but feminine. She couldn't have been more than five years older than me"
ZeldaQueen: Gee, do you guys think Fitzpatrick had the hot anime secretary look in mind? *rolls eyes*
Nora heads on in and has a seat, and there's a lot of pointless description about how the office used to look and how it looks now. Given that this is the first of...maybe two times Nora has therapy sessions in this book, I don't care. I'm also not entirely certain if this is some sort of clumsy foreshadowing for Miss Greene, who Nora quickly takes a disliking too. You see, she - le gasp - tries to talk to Nora about her mother's job and That's Terrible. Nora tells us "I hadn't exactly loved my sessions with Dr. Hendrickson, but I found myself resenting him for retiring and abandoning me to Miss Greene. I was starting to get a feel for her, and she seemed attentive to detail. I sensed her itching to dig into every dark corner of my life".
First of all, I have no idea idea what her sessions with Dr. Hendrickson were like and thus there is no basis for comparison and thus I do not give a fuck.
Second of all, oh yes a psychologist wants to discuss stuff about your life the horror! I mean, how out of line for them! It's not like you were told to have sessions with her because of stuff in your personal life! And I might chalk this up to a case of unreliable narrator, with Nora being pissy because she doesn't want to face what's going on, but that her behavior is definitely unhealthy, except that I know where this all goes. Suffice to say that it reads pretty much like Meyer's opinion of Charlie telling Bella to move on past Edward and see a therapist in New Moon.
Anyway, Miss Greene starts going on about how lonely Nora must be in her life annnnnd I think I know where this is going. Nora defensively says that she has the housekeeper in the evenings, and Miss Greene points out that that's hardly someone like a friend or mother. She then asks if Nora has any best friends or boyfriends. Fantastic, now we're moving towards Patch again. *head desk*
Nora tells her about Vee and Miss Greene drops all pretenses and specifically asks if Nora has a boyfriend, noting "You're an attractive girl. I imagine there must be some interest from the opposite sex". Ummm...people, I've never seen a psychologist, so help me out. Is sidling into inappropriate territory, or is that just my lack of knowledge?
Oh, and Nora's still pissy
"'Here's the thing,' I said as patiently as possible. 'I really appreciate that you're trying to help me, but I had this exact conversation with Dr. Hendrickson a year ago when my dad died. Rehashing it with you isn't helping. It's like going back in time and reliving it all over again. Yes, it was tragic and horrible, and I'm still dealing with it every day, but what I really need is to move on.'"
ZeldaQueen: Dude, reliving what? She asked you about whether or not you're being left alone with no one to confide to! She didn't ask you about your father's death and for all she knows, your home circumstances have changed since you last had that conversation!
Miss Greene gives a generic "thank you for telling me how you feel" response and makes a note of this all. Nora stands up and says that she's sorry she has to cut things short, but she has to be somewhere. Oh, that must be one of those two-second therapy sessions I've heard so much about. Miss Greene says, and I quote, "Oh?", and for some reason Nora acts like she has to respond to that and gets even more pissed. And while yes, I'll admit that Nora shouldn't have to tell the woman everything, I fail to see why she's so suspicious and distrustful of her. Granted the boyfriend thing was a tad creepy, but she asked just a few questions, which I'd hardly call probing for her innermost secrets!
Anyway, Nora feels the need to lie about her destination, so she says that she has to go to the library for Biology homework. Miss Greene notes how Nora seems to be doing very well in her classes (I guess we'll take her word for that, since we've seen no evidence of it) and apparently has a note saying that Nora "agreed" to tutor Patch. I think that this moment is the only reason for that stupid tutoring thing to have been put into the book, because otherwise it serves no purpose at all to the plot. So yeah, here goes.
""To give you fair warning, I'm going to talk with Mr. McConaughy and see about setting some parameters for your tutoring sessions. I'd like all meetings to be held here at school, under the direct supervision of ateacher or other faculty member. I don't want you tutoring Patch off school property. I especially don't want the two of you meeting alone.'
A chill tiptoed along my skin. 'Why? What's going on?'
'I can't discuss it.'
The only reason I could think why she didn't want me alone with Patch was that he was dangerous. My past might frighten you, he'd said on the loading platform of the Archangel."
ZeldaQueen: *scrunches face* Okay folks, yes, that bit there? That's supposed to be foreshadowing. You can tell it's supposed to be foreshadowing, because that's got to be the most random conclusion Nora could come to.
Nora has made it more than obvious that Patch makes her uncomfortable. She told the teacher he makes her feel threatened and unsafe. There was that horrible class when Patch sexually harassed her and Vee showed signs of intelligence and condemned his actions. Nora has done nothing but tell everyone how Patch freaks her out and she hates him. Now, we have the school psychologist saying that she's going to talk to the teacher and see to it that Nora and Patch aren't going to be left alone together, which is perhaps the wisest thing someone's said thus far.
What's Nora's conclusion? She's frightened because it looks like he might be dangerous. And there's the implication that Miss Greene knows something other people don't.
...What? Why is "Patch could be dangerous" such a revelation? Wouldn't it occur to Nora that someone concerned about her wellbeing told the new psychologist what Patch was doing to her? Why is this treated like some vaguely mystical and weird reveal?
Whatever. We get some pointless descriptions of Nora kicking around the library, before she goes to the hospital to see Vee. Apparently Vee actually had her left arm broken, and was just getting out of surgery. While at the library, Nora goes to the online database for old theater reviews and has the idea to Google Patch's name. She's instantly confused because "I frowned at the search results. Nothing. No Facebook, no MySpace, no blog. It was like he didn't exist". Oh my God, how terrifying! No blog or Facebook! That definitely makes him an unperson! I mean, it's not like there just aren't people who don't have those things! Or, I don't know, that he has an online name! Lord. I must not exist, if that's the case. Sorry guys, apparently you're reading sporkings by a ghost.
Anyway, this leads to her poking around old newspapers and this leads to her finding a headline saying that Elliot Horn was a suspect in a murder case. What.
"A sixteen-year-old Kinghorn Preparatory student who police were questioning in what has been dubbed 'The Kinghorn Hanging' has been released without charge. After eighteen-year-old Kjirsten Halverson's body was found hanging from a tree on the wooded campus of Kinghorn Prep, police questioned sophomore Elliot Saunders, who was seen with the victim on the night of her death"
ZeldaQueen: Oh, of course. If a guy seems nice, he's actually a murderer. What a lovely moral!
And speak of the Devil, Elliot shows up right behind Nora. Apparently he has figured out that she knows his secret, because this guy has abandoned any sense of niceness and is now in Total Douche Mode (TDM). His eyes are narrow and his voice is cold and he gets right up next to Nora, freaking her out, and starts asking her what she's been up to. She manages to poke the button that shuts off the computer monitor and then tries to run by saying that she has to get something to eat and get home. He urges her to have dinner with him and to call her mother and lie to her about homework keeping her late. You know, the sort of thing Our Hero Patch encourages her to do. *cough*
Nora makes a stand and tells him that her mother won't like her going out with a strange boy, and Elliot points out that she's a hypocrite seeing as she went out with him to the amusement park just that Saturday. Now if Elliot really wanted to win some points, he'd remind Nora how she's been flouncing around with Patch, who at no point in the book ever had the excuse of being safe to be around. Instead of that happening, Nora grabs her backpack and flees the room. When she looks back, Elliot is gone. She prints the page about the murder investigation and heads off to visit Vee in the hospital
Onward to: Chapter 12
Back to: Chapter 10
Return to to: Table of Contents
Projection Room Voices: Starting Media in 3...2...1...
Chapter 11
ZeldaQueen: Nora is in Biology class, and astonishingly we do not get some incredibly sexist talk form the teacher. Instead, she notes with anxiety that Patch isn't in class and could very well have something to do with Vee's attack. There's another part of her that dismisses those thoughts and while I know that Fitzpatrick has a point when she says that there are a million legitimate reasons that Patch could be skipping class, by this point in the story I'd think he's just as likely to skip class to attack a girl as he would be to call out sick.
At the end of class, the teacher gives Nora a note from one Miss Greene. Nora is confused, as the school has no Miss Greene teaching, but apparently this woman has taken over as the new psychologist and is sending Nora a note to come and make up those two therapy sessions she missed. Nora trots on over to the office, and we are abruptly introduced to Miss Greene
"Miss Greene had flawless pale skin, sea blue eyes, a lush mouth, and fine, straight blond hair that tumbled past her elbows. It was parted at thecrown of her oval-shaped face. A pair of turquoise cat's-eye glasses sat at the tip of her nose, and she was dressed formally in a gray herring bone pencil skirt and a pink silk blouse. Her figure was willowy but feminine. She couldn't have been more than five years older than me"
ZeldaQueen: Gee, do you guys think Fitzpatrick had the hot anime secretary look in mind? *rolls eyes*
Nora heads on in and has a seat, and there's a lot of pointless description about how the office used to look and how it looks now. Given that this is the first of...maybe two times Nora has therapy sessions in this book, I don't care. I'm also not entirely certain if this is some sort of clumsy foreshadowing for Miss Greene, who Nora quickly takes a disliking too. You see, she - le gasp - tries to talk to Nora about her mother's job and That's Terrible. Nora tells us "I hadn't exactly loved my sessions with Dr. Hendrickson, but I found myself resenting him for retiring and abandoning me to Miss Greene. I was starting to get a feel for her, and she seemed attentive to detail. I sensed her itching to dig into every dark corner of my life".
First of all, I have no idea idea what her sessions with Dr. Hendrickson were like and thus there is no basis for comparison and thus I do not give a fuck.
Second of all, oh yes a psychologist wants to discuss stuff about your life the horror! I mean, how out of line for them! It's not like you were told to have sessions with her because of stuff in your personal life! And I might chalk this up to a case of unreliable narrator, with Nora being pissy because she doesn't want to face what's going on, but that her behavior is definitely unhealthy, except that I know where this all goes. Suffice to say that it reads pretty much like Meyer's opinion of Charlie telling Bella to move on past Edward and see a therapist in New Moon.
Anyway, Miss Greene starts going on about how lonely Nora must be in her life annnnnd I think I know where this is going. Nora defensively says that she has the housekeeper in the evenings, and Miss Greene points out that that's hardly someone like a friend or mother. She then asks if Nora has any best friends or boyfriends. Fantastic, now we're moving towards Patch again. *head desk*
Nora tells her about Vee and Miss Greene drops all pretenses and specifically asks if Nora has a boyfriend, noting "You're an attractive girl. I imagine there must be some interest from the opposite sex". Ummm...people, I've never seen a psychologist, so help me out. Is sidling into inappropriate territory, or is that just my lack of knowledge?
Oh, and Nora's still pissy
"'Here's the thing,' I said as patiently as possible. 'I really appreciate that you're trying to help me, but I had this exact conversation with Dr. Hendrickson a year ago when my dad died. Rehashing it with you isn't helping. It's like going back in time and reliving it all over again. Yes, it was tragic and horrible, and I'm still dealing with it every day, but what I really need is to move on.'"
ZeldaQueen: Dude, reliving what? She asked you about whether or not you're being left alone with no one to confide to! She didn't ask you about your father's death and for all she knows, your home circumstances have changed since you last had that conversation!
Miss Greene gives a generic "thank you for telling me how you feel" response and makes a note of this all. Nora stands up and says that she's sorry she has to cut things short, but she has to be somewhere. Oh, that must be one of those two-second therapy sessions I've heard so much about. Miss Greene says, and I quote, "Oh?", and for some reason Nora acts like she has to respond to that and gets even more pissed. And while yes, I'll admit that Nora shouldn't have to tell the woman everything, I fail to see why she's so suspicious and distrustful of her. Granted the boyfriend thing was a tad creepy, but she asked just a few questions, which I'd hardly call probing for her innermost secrets!
Anyway, Nora feels the need to lie about her destination, so she says that she has to go to the library for Biology homework. Miss Greene notes how Nora seems to be doing very well in her classes (I guess we'll take her word for that, since we've seen no evidence of it) and apparently has a note saying that Nora "agreed" to tutor Patch. I think that this moment is the only reason for that stupid tutoring thing to have been put into the book, because otherwise it serves no purpose at all to the plot. So yeah, here goes.
""To give you fair warning, I'm going to talk with Mr. McConaughy and see about setting some parameters for your tutoring sessions. I'd like all meetings to be held here at school, under the direct supervision of ateacher or other faculty member. I don't want you tutoring Patch off school property. I especially don't want the two of you meeting alone.'
A chill tiptoed along my skin. 'Why? What's going on?'
'I can't discuss it.'
The only reason I could think why she didn't want me alone with Patch was that he was dangerous. My past might frighten you, he'd said on the loading platform of the Archangel."
ZeldaQueen: *scrunches face* Okay folks, yes, that bit there? That's supposed to be foreshadowing. You can tell it's supposed to be foreshadowing, because that's got to be the most random conclusion Nora could come to.
Nora has made it more than obvious that Patch makes her uncomfortable. She told the teacher he makes her feel threatened and unsafe. There was that horrible class when Patch sexually harassed her and Vee showed signs of intelligence and condemned his actions. Nora has done nothing but tell everyone how Patch freaks her out and she hates him. Now, we have the school psychologist saying that she's going to talk to the teacher and see to it that Nora and Patch aren't going to be left alone together, which is perhaps the wisest thing someone's said thus far.
What's Nora's conclusion? She's frightened because it looks like he might be dangerous. And there's the implication that Miss Greene knows something other people don't.
...What? Why is "Patch could be dangerous" such a revelation? Wouldn't it occur to Nora that someone concerned about her wellbeing told the new psychologist what Patch was doing to her? Why is this treated like some vaguely mystical and weird reveal?
Whatever. We get some pointless descriptions of Nora kicking around the library, before she goes to the hospital to see Vee. Apparently Vee actually had her left arm broken, and was just getting out of surgery. While at the library, Nora goes to the online database for old theater reviews and has the idea to Google Patch's name. She's instantly confused because "I frowned at the search results. Nothing. No Facebook, no MySpace, no blog. It was like he didn't exist". Oh my God, how terrifying! No blog or Facebook! That definitely makes him an unperson! I mean, it's not like there just aren't people who don't have those things! Or, I don't know, that he has an online name! Lord. I must not exist, if that's the case. Sorry guys, apparently you're reading sporkings by a ghost.
Anyway, this leads to her poking around old newspapers and this leads to her finding a headline saying that Elliot Horn was a suspect in a murder case. What.
"A sixteen-year-old Kinghorn Preparatory student who police were questioning in what has been dubbed 'The Kinghorn Hanging' has been released without charge. After eighteen-year-old Kjirsten Halverson's body was found hanging from a tree on the wooded campus of Kinghorn Prep, police questioned sophomore Elliot Saunders, who was seen with the victim on the night of her death"
ZeldaQueen: Oh, of course. If a guy seems nice, he's actually a murderer. What a lovely moral!
And speak of the Devil, Elliot shows up right behind Nora. Apparently he has figured out that she knows his secret, because this guy has abandoned any sense of niceness and is now in Total Douche Mode (TDM). His eyes are narrow and his voice is cold and he gets right up next to Nora, freaking her out, and starts asking her what she's been up to. She manages to poke the button that shuts off the computer monitor and then tries to run by saying that she has to get something to eat and get home. He urges her to have dinner with him and to call her mother and lie to her about homework keeping her late. You know, the sort of thing Our Hero Patch encourages her to do. *cough*
Nora makes a stand and tells him that her mother won't like her going out with a strange boy, and Elliot points out that she's a hypocrite seeing as she went out with him to the amusement park just that Saturday. Now if Elliot really wanted to win some points, he'd remind Nora how she's been flouncing around with Patch, who at no point in the book ever had the excuse of being safe to be around. Instead of that happening, Nora grabs her backpack and flees the room. When she looks back, Elliot is gone. She prints the page about the murder investigation and heads off to visit Vee in the hospital
Onward to: Chapter 12
Back to: Chapter 10
Return to to: Table of Contents
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(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-01 03:51 pm (UTC)Also, you say you're afraid of someone and someone else says that they would like to mitigate the amount of time you spend with him and you don't jump all over her saying thank you? What is wrong with you, Nora?!
Eliot. *facepalm* There are no words.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-01 04:01 pm (UTC)Also, WHOA. I don't know how it works in the states but here in Canada you are NOT allowed to print the name of an under age kid in a criminal investigation. Even if they are arrested. Youth Justice Act and all. If Elliot was 16 at the time, that paper shouldn't have printed his name! He wasn't even charged! They don't even print names of adults at that time. Persons of Interest does NOT mean suspect! He easily could have been a witness! Or just someone who might have seen her leave a party with someone. That is seriously bad, that could ruin someone's life! Epic fail, Fitzpatrick!
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-01 05:12 pm (UTC)*makes triumphant return with her hat of limited experience*
Date: 2011-07-01 05:55 pm (UTC)Also, I would...tentatively say good therapist or psychiatrist doesn't railroad the session like this chick does, and the sort of prying she was actively doing into Nora's personal life was most certainly inappropriate. The comments about the housekeeper not being a good influence in Nora's life, especially - they aren't supposed to disregard valued connections in the person's life. They aren't supposed to judge how someone copes unless it is actively destructive to their mental and physical health - my therapist actually gave me some coping strategies for my anxiety disorder that would seriously get me stared at. They're unorthodox, and insane in their own right, but they let me hope.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-01 07:55 pm (UTC)So, in other words, Ms. Fitzpatrick doesn't seem to believe that people may need psychological support after a death in the family. She seems to think that all one needs to get over grief is to just put on a brave face and nothing else.
Except that it doesn't work like that! Especially not when Nora's mother is almost never home to provide any emotional support of her own! Why do Fitzpatrick and Meyer think that psychologists are just meddling busybodies? It's okay to get help; in fact, in some cases, it's *necessary* to get help! A lot of the time, you can't just "get over" something like that on your own.
As for her father's death being "tragic and horrible" for Nora, well, we never see it. It's almost like she doesn't care. Yes, I know that there are many reactions that people have to death in the family, but it seriously doesn't seem to have that much of an impact on Nora's life at all. It's almost as if she just ignores it.
/...What? Why is "Patch could be dangerous" such a revelation? Wouldn't it occur to Nora that someone concerned about her wellbeing told the new psychologist what Patch was doing to her?/
So, therapy is just a waste of time, your psychologist will ask you inappropriate questions, and anybody who shows concern about you tutoring the guy who repeatedly harassed you has ulterior motives. What color is the sky in Fitzpatrick's world?
/Oh my God, how terrifying! No blog or Facebook! That definitely makes him an unperson! I mean, it's not like there just aren't people who don't have those things!/
So, I guess that my grandparents are secretly demons. Not only do they not have blogs or Facebook, they don't even know how to use computers! I've been talking to ghosts all this time! Haley Joel Osment, eat your heart out!
/Anyway, this leads to her poking around old newspapers and this leads to her finding a headline saying that Elliot Horn was a suspect in a murder case. What./
Elliot is a *minor.* The police aren't *supposed* to put his name out. Are *all* of the adults in this story complete morons?
/Oh, of course. If a guy seems nice, he's actually a murderer. What a lovely moral!/
Yes, and the guy who acts like a psycho secretly loves you. How else would Patch look better?
I ranted about this in my LiveJournal: http://aikaterini.livejournal.com/51564.html
I am so sick of this trope.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-01 10:33 pm (UTC)...And why the hell does she think Patch is a real name? Christ driving a stick-shift, has she met that many people named Patch that it rings as a common name to her?!?
And I want to show the therapy session to Dr. Olson just to see if it triggers TRAINED PROFESSIONAL RAGE! in him.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-01 11:20 pm (UTC)Hi, Man Called True! I'm Carakasla! I thought that was one of my character's name but I think I must have confuzzled myself. Even though I DO have a facebook...and use my real name...oh well! The wonderful
FitzpatrickNora has opened our eyes to our confusion with our own birth names.(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-02 12:14 am (UTC)- I was working with Betsy.
- Do you like her?
- Sure?
- But do you like her?
Needless to say, I did not see him long. However, relationship problems are highly correlated with psych problems in teens.
The thing that I find most hilarious was that she was reading her old file in front of her. I have transferred to several different doctors and none of them ever did that. In fact, every time they will ask you to give your own history, even if they are just seeing you one time to do a psych test and have your main files anyway. They also ask what you want to get out of therapy. What is this doctor's goal?
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-02 02:50 am (UTC)And as others have mentioned, Nora doesn't seem like the kind who's grieving. Not saying that there's a "proper" way to grieve - everyone handles things in their own way. But if you redacted the two (?) references to it, would you guess from the way she's written that Nora has suffered the loss of someone close to her?
So to recap: losing a parent is kind of like misplacing your favorite sneakers and every doctor is out to get you.
...A+, Ms. Fitzpatrick!
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-03 03:30 am (UTC)The stupid, it burns. I kind of really want it to turn out that Elliot's taking her out for coke to eplain that he has nothing to do with the murder and some guy who looks suspiciously like Patch had been hanging around the girl for weeks, but some innate sense is telling me that's not going to happen. :( Oh well, I may dream as I like in my own head.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-29 03:02 pm (UTC)Oh, and real subtle way to shit all over Elliot's characterisation after being a nice and normal guy till now.
And you cannot name minors in the media if it's to do with a legal matter. Geez, you think Fitzpatrick would pick up a newspaper once in a while and realise that? I'm guessing it's just to add to shitting all over Elliot to make Patch look better (which, in my mind, is impossible!)
That whole therapy scene was so rushed, it's like I missed it! What the hell happened?! It was pointless and taking a stroll down Convenience Lane for Fitzpatrick to yell at us readers once more 'PATCH IS A BAD BOY, Y'ALL!!!' The psychology bashing, meanwhile, seems a little from what you hear about Scientology and their propaganda about psychology and psychiatry being a 'pseudoscience.' Remember Tom Cruise saying 'You don't know the history of psychiatry, I do!'? :D
And what is it with all YA female leads practically ogling other women in stories? Like Bella ogling Rosalie, we have Nora's eyes popping out over Ms Greene's 'lush mouth.' Just saying… :D
I think this was said in a prior chapter, but isn't all these 'conveniences' in the story supposed to be Patch infiltrating the minds of everyone around Nora trying to et closer to her or something, like playing puppetmaster so he can creep upon her everywhere she goes?
*shudder* >.<
(no subject)
Date: 2011-07-31 03:23 am (UTC)XD I think it's a perspective screw-up. The Suethors forget that they're writing from a girl's POV and act like it's third person, before going into a litany about how hawt another female character is.
No, that's not it, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Patch certainly could, if he wanted to. He's too good to do something like that, though *gags at writing that last sentence* -_-
Wikipedia
Date: 2011-09-19 03:04 am (UTC)Nora finds Patch intolerable and unsettling, as Patch is in turns able to draw her in and repel her with his behavior. Patch seems to know more about Nora than her best friends do, and after several inexplicable and life-threatening encounters that all seem to involve Patch, Nora becomes obsessed with figuring out who Patch is and why he is so determined to be in her life. Her quest for answers lands her in several dangerous situations, finally leading to the stunning reveal that Patch is in fact an angel who fell from Heaven[.]
Isn't this such a, er, mild way to put that?
Re: Wikipedia
Date: 2011-09-19 04:35 am (UTC)Of course, the author herself describes her murderous psychopath of a love interest as a "bad boy", so that seems to be on par for this book in general.
Re: Wikipedia
Date: 2011-09-19 09:42 pm (UTC)obviousbig spoilers and made the book seem much nicer than it actually was. -In fact, almost like it would be fun to read.-That... That is very terrifying. Who in their right mind would... You know, never mind. If I ask, all I'm really going to get is 'logic doesn't apply to this book' or something. XD
Re: Wikipedia
Date: 2011-09-21 01:25 am (UTC)I think you answered your own question. I don't think Fitzpatrick IS in her right mind. >_<;
Re: Wikipedia
Date: 2011-09-29 12:47 am (UTC)...
My GAWD. I had a small hope it wouldn't be so bad -I used to think no books could turn out truly terrible-, but this, this is horrific. In the "I pulled the 'plot' out of my butt and slapped things together haphazardly" kind of way.
Insane, to say the least. *nods*
Re: Psychologist
Date: 2011-11-08 10:08 am (UTC)I'm a little tired of media always portraying Psychologists as creepy and intrusive. Some of them are, sure, but those worth their salt wait for the PATIENT to talk.
They generally say (from my experience of 2, so not all that big a sample I admit) 'Hi, how are you?' 'So what brings you to see me?' 'How are your studies going?' 'And things at home?'
They generally leave things up to you, you can leave out as much as you like. Jeez.
Also, wtf? Elliot suddenly pulls a 180? As if!
My god, how do you survive?
(no subject)
Date: 2011-11-15 09:00 pm (UTC)-friends who treat her with respect
-an introspective and analytical mind
-a social life
-respect for humanity
-a backbone
-a strong familial support system
-flaws
-athletic ability, preferably a track star
-good grades
-past romances
-sexual chemistry with her faux love interest
-a job, preferably a as waitress
-a personality
I hope the YA genre doesn't break under the weight of it all.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-11-21 05:58 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-12-12 09:25 pm (UTC)(sorry if my grammar/spelling is bad,English is not my first language)
(no subject)
Date: 2013-09-01 06:56 am (UTC)Oh great. "Sea blue eyes"? "Flawless pale skin"? "Willowy but feminine figure"? Is it just me or does that description sound vaguely Suvian?
I frowned at the search results. Nothing. No Facebook, no MySpace, no blog. It was like he didn't exist
Because there's no way people will mess with their name on Facebook because they think it gives them a bit of privacy.
Also, yays, my real name is Katistrophe now. Huh, always thought it was a pun on my real name, but I guess that can't be then.
After eighteen-year-old Kjirsten Halverson's body was found hanging from a tree on the wooded campus of Kinghorn Prep, police questioned sophomore Elliot Saunders, who was seen with the victim on the night of her death"
The fuck? Any hope of him being a normal guy who just got suspected because he was seen with her? Or is that the thing you said about him getting worse?
...Yup, he's EVIL. Yays.
(no subject)
Date: 2013-09-01 03:45 pm (UTC)...Yup, he's EVIL. Yays."
Nope. The Nice Guy is actually incredibly evil. Nice message, huh?
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Date: 2014-07-18 05:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-07-18 09:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-07-18 10:03 pm (UTC)Starting with how freaking creepy Patch is.
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Date: 2014-07-18 10:07 pm (UTC)And yeah. that includes Patch being horrible. >(
A theory
Date: 2015-05-19 12:31 am (UTC)Up until now, we had no idea that Elliot was a bad dude. And it wasn't a matter of subtle foreshadowing, we literally had no indication that he was anything other than he was. There was no hint, in story, that it was leading up to this. He actually seemed pretty nice. Then, all of a sudden when Nora "happens" to come a across an article stating he's a murderer, his personality takes a total 180 and he acts like a psycho?
You wanna know what I think? I think that Patch has Elliot under mind control. He wants Nora to come running to him and he doesn't want Elliot getting in the way of things. So he mind controlled him, made him seem like a psycho, and planted that article for Nora to find, just to make it seem like the truth. It would explain why his name was released in the article, even though he's a minor and it would explain his change in behavior. It all comes down to Patch and how much of an asshole he is.
Hell, Patch mind controlling people would explain a lot of things in this book. It would explain why no one is helping Nora. It would explain why things seem to be trying to get them together. And it would explain why Nora's been behaving differently from when she was in the first chapter. Over time, he's been implanting thoughts into her brain, making her more and more attracted to him, dependent on him, until he is all she thinks about. She recognizes that she's scared, and yet Patch's implanted thoughts keep making her think he's a nice guy. He's raping her mentally AND physically.
That sick fucker.
Re: A theory
Date: 2015-05-19 02:37 am (UTC)