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Chapter 2

ZeldaQueen: We kick off this chapter with an infodump about how Nora and her mother live on the far outer edge of Nowhere, with it being about a mile or so to the nearest neighbors. We also learn that her mother works for an auction company and is often out of town on business, leaving Nora in the care of their Germanic housekeeper, Dorothea. Apparently that's getting to be a popular name in teen literature. Also, all of this coupled with Patch's stalker/rapist vibes really gives the impression that this is some slasher plot, where Nora will be in her bedroom at night and hear someone scratching on her window and when she goes to investigate, Patch will jump in and stab her with a machete.

Pleasant dreams.

Oh yeah, right. Anyway, Dorothea is doing the dishes and asks how school was. Nora tells her about the seating switch and describes how Patch is such a dark, brooding jerk. Except she also takes time to tell us how hot she thinks he is

"
Only, this wasn't exactly true. I'd liked a lot of what I'd seen. Long, lean muscles down his arms, broad but relaxed shoulders, and a smile that was part playful, part seductive. I was in an uneasy alliance with myself, trying to ignore what had started to feel irresistible"

ZeldaQueen: All I will say is this - if a guy talks to someone like Patch did and inspires the same feelings and reactions that Nora had, I would not imagine that his smile would be described as playful and seductive. I would imagine it to look like a shark's grin.

Jump to nine o'clock, when Dorothea leaves. Nora is left alone, pondering her biology assignment to find out more about Patch. She realizes that she just might not have a choice but to call him after all. Oh isn't this contrived. Why doesn't she just write down things like "He has the uncanny ability to guess my personality traits" or "He somehow knows a good many personal things about me" or "He constantly makes sexual jokes that make me uncomfortable"? It would be writing down observations and it might get through the teacher's thick head. But no, she decides that she'll call him after all. She needs to keep her biology grade as an "A" to get a full scholarship to...somewhere and hopes that if Patch is a dick and won't help her out, the teacher might reconsider giving her a new partner.

So she calls up Patch, and of course he rubs her nose in the fact that she swallowed her pride and called him. After he manipulated circumstances to be that she either call him or get a bad grade. What a charming guy. Anyway, she asks if they can meet for a few minutes to finish the interview and he says no, he's at a place called Bo's Arcade, which he says is not her kind of place. Oh for the love of - of course it isn't! She asks him if they can have the interview over the phone. He hangs up on her. Lovely.

Determined not to fail her grade, Nora briefly considers making up things about Patch, before doing what I suggested and writing down a few things she's already figured out

"
I scribbled Jerk on the first line. On the line beneath it I added, Smokes cigars. Will die of lung cancer. Hopefully soon. Excellent physical shape.

I immediately scribbled over the last observation until it was illegible
"

ZeldaQueen: Again, the fact that he's hot clearly makes up for his horrible behavior. *rolls eyes*

So she leaves her mother a brief, vague voicemail and decides to head off to Bo's Arcade for the assignment. I have to wonder how much this thing is actually worth, because it honestly sounds like a ten-pointer by my own experiences. Hell, at my school, if you did something like that in class, half the time it was turned in when the bell rang. Anyway, she gets there and finds that there's a fifteen-dollar admission and the bouncer isn't pleased that she seems to be looking to pop in for free. She tells us how she doesn't have the money and isn't interested in paying anyway, so she impulsively ducks under the ropes and yells that if she isn't out in two minutes, she'll pay up.

She figures that she'll grab Patch and get him to finish the interview outside. Yes, because he's been so cooperative thus far, he'll go right along with that idea. She finds that he is indeed shooting pool and calls to him. He sees that the bouncer has just caught her and tells the guy that it's alright, she's with him. Apparently the word of a teenager carries a lot of weight there, because the bouncer lets Nora go.

As Nora approaches him, she first thinks that there's more animosity coming from him, before realizing that it's confidence and freedom to be himself. Yeah...great that a guy is thriving in a sleazy bar, playing pool. Oh, and she notices that there's something not safe about him. And yet, he's the love interest. Alright then!

Patch tries to feed Nora some cock-and-bull story about how he lost reception and she doesn't believe it. He tells his pool buddies to leave for a minute while he does the interview, and upon reading what Nora has written, he insists that he doesn't smoke cigars. Nora doesn't believe that.

Her first question is what his biggest dream is. She's all pleased because she knows that he'll actually have to put some thought into it. He promptly answers that his biggest dream is to kiss her, and then admits that he only said that to get her to blush. I...guess she wrote that down anyway, because she doesn't ask him the question again or demand a different answer, even though that one was clearly a big joke. Instead, she asks him where he works, and he tells her that it's at a Mexican restaurant called Borderline. This won't be used in the future at all, I'm sure. She asks him what his religion is, and I'm trying as hard as I can to grasp why this is a biology assignment. He says that he's in a cult, and then makes an unfunny joke about how they sacrifice young women and would Nora be interested in the job? Considering how he's behaved to her thus far and considering that he jokes about getting said sacrificial girl's trust before killing her, that's really not funny!

Nora starts to lose her temper and asks him how many times he failed his senior year. He tells her that he wasn't in school the previous year and that he never went to school before then. Nora thinks this is another lie because there were laws that people had to go to school. Um...homeschooling? Online classes? I guess technically those are schools, but you don't go to school in those cases. Anyway, she asks him what convinced him to go to school this year if that was the case, and he says that she did. Oh brother.

Nora isn't impressed much by that either, and Patch proceeds to take a step towards her and start going on about how "
irresistible" her eyes are. He then says that she has a pretty mouth. I swear to God, I'm not exaggerating. Alright, technically he describes her mouth as "that killer curvy mouth", but it's still REALLY FREAKING CREEPY, SOMEONE LOCK THIS GUY UP!!!

I'm sorry.

Thankfully, Nora agrees with me and steps back and makes excuses to leave. I'm not giving her any points though, because "
part of me responded positively to it". Hear that, girls? If a guy says that you have pretty eyes, it doesn't matter if he's been harassing you and being an overall jerk and is leaning in like he's going to shank you or something. He's complimenting your eyes, after all!

Before leaving, she comments on how he knows so much about her, specifically how to irritate and upset her. He says that she makes it easy, and she gets angry at him for provoking her again. He tells her to use the word "provoke" again, as "
Your mouth looks provocative when you do". Real prize, this fellow. Nora proceeds to rant about how much she hates him, but notes that her jaw is twitching which it only does when she lies. OH MY SWEET LORD, MAKE IT STOP!

Patch says that he's glad they were partnered. No shit, I bet you love having someone to terrorize and harass! Nora says that she's doing her best to get that changed, and Patch laughs at her. He then pulls a bit of paper out of her hair, which I think is supposed to be romantic but instead comes across as BAD TOUCH! As he does this, she sees that he has a birthmark on his own wrist. She comments on how that's an unfortunate place for it, alluding to the scars on her own wrist. He makes a crude joke about her preferring it in a more intimate place, and she finally leaves.

Jump forward to night time, when Nora is in bed. We get a really creepy description of how she's felt like there's been a presence guarding her ever since her father died, so she often imagines hearing footsteps in the hallway. She hears a noise and freaks out, but nothing is there when she gets up to look.

I think we all know where this is going. Lord



Onward to: Chapter 3

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Date: 2011-05-29 02:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carmyn
Blargh this book sucks. When some can tell me just what the appeal of having a jerk ass abusive boyfriend is, I'll start giving these authors some credit. Or not. Probably not.

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Date: 2011-05-29 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisaerin.livejournal.com
Why? Why is this shit published? Rhetorical question, I know people eat it up. But Patch isn't just a jerk, he's dangerous. He's sexually harrassing Nora, and I'm supposed to think it's romantic. Here are my thoughts on the subject reblogged from my Tumblr.
"He's Hot" is not a legitimate excuse

I was at the bookstore yesterday and I picked up this book. It was about a girl with powers, and there was this irritating guy who was a know-it-all, but he was the most handsome guy she’d met. Don’t remember the name of the book. Once I saw the line about him being hot, I threw that book back on the shelf. In hindsight, I may have been too hasty. After all, not every book with a hot jerk means the guy will have no redeeming qualities. After all, a guy can be a jerk, but still have redeeming qualities, or change over time. But after reading some YA books, I kind of stopped giving the authors the benefit of the doubt. I’m sick of these guys being such assholes to the girl and the only redeeming quality is that he’s hot. That’s it. No mention of his personality. Also, I’d like to add, that sometimes when a girl says no, she’s really not interested. She’s not playing hard to get, she just doesn’t like you. Wanted to bring that up after reading a sporking of Hush Hush’s first chapter. Seriously, this dick asks the protagonist if she sleeps naked in class, and the teacher does nothing. And I know that despite her disgust, she’ll end up falling in love with him despite his dickishness because I am genre savvy, and because I read the reviews. Why don’t authors ever have these guys apologize and mean it? I get the appeal of the bad boy, I do. But there has to be more to the character other than he’s hot, to get me to like him.

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Date: 2011-05-29 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mancalledtrue.livejournal.com
I want to see Patch get into a fistfight with Edward Cullen. This is making Midnight Sun Wardo seem well-adjusted.

I know it won't happen, but the only way this book could end well is with Patch getting ventiliated by a SWAT team.

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Date: 2011-05-29 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
I'm not familiar with the Supernatural fandom, but from what I've gathered, I'd love to have Castiel do his glowy head-sploshion thing on Patch. That would be beautiful!

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Date: 2011-05-29 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southerngaelic.livejournal.com
*MACES PATCH*

HELP! POLICE! D8

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Date: 2011-05-29 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmram.livejournal.com
I kept putting myself in Nora's shoes and all I could think of was how terrified I'd be. I've known a few people like Patch. They are, without exception, some of the most horrible people that I've ever met.

If this is a trend in this book, then I'm just glad it doesn't seem likely to make it over to where I live (for now, anyway).

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Date: 2011-05-29 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
Exactly! That's just one of the reasons this book is so scary. Bella liked Edward stalking her and whatnot, but Nora really is scared. Her hooking up with Patch doesn't feel like love, it feels like a sadist breaking the will of a young woman.

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Date: 2011-05-29 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aachren.livejournal.com
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to write a YA novel where the hot creepy dude is just that and the average, but crazy nice guy saves the girl from the creep while being just the sort of guy the girl can and should fall in love with. I'd read that book, but would anyone else? (By anyone else, I mean teenaged girls.)

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Date: 2011-05-29 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
I don't know, but I wish you'd write it. I hate the "dangerous male as love interest" and "stalking is love" tropes.

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Date: 2011-05-31 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aachren.livejournal.com
You are tempting me. Also, YA romance needs some sense!

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Date: 2011-05-29 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
I'm twenty, but I'd still go for it. :)

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Date: 2011-05-31 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aachren.livejournal.com
As long as you promise not to spork me!

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Date: 2011-05-31 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
Certainly! ^_^

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Date: 2011-05-29 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aikaterini.livejournal.com
/We also learn that her mother works for an auction company and is often out of town on business, leaving Nora in the care of their Germanic housekeeper, Dorothea./

Wonderful. Your daughter has just lost her father and you leave her alone at home for long periods of time with a housekeeper. What a great parent you are.

/She asks him what his religion is, and I'm trying as hard as I can to grasp why this is a biology assignment./

None of their questions have *anything* to do with biology or even human reproduction. What kind of assignment is this?

/He makes a crude joke about her preferring it in a more intimate place, and she finally leaves./

So, in this chapter alone, Patch has gloated at Nora, hung up on her in the middle of a conversation, lied to her, refused to give real answers to her questions, made lewd comments to her, laughed at her, and intentionally provoked her.

In other words, he has done nothing but bother her, harass her, and act like a sleazy and obnoxious dirtbag.

Yeah, I sure see why I'm supposed to be rooting for him and Nora to get together. -_-

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Date: 2011-06-09 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winki-pop.livejournal.com
Sorry, 'hawt' is not a redeeming quality!

Seriously, where in the hell did this whole 'hot jerkass and spineless girl fall in love' schtick come from in teen lit? How did people ever let this become a 'good' thing? I'm really confused, because I always thought that if someone harasses you like Patch does, you tell somebody about it, and if you meet someone, get to know them and their true personality!

I have not seen one bit of romance in this book so far? How did the author even come up with this idea? Someone must have taken her aside when she read this out to them and said 'you can't publish this as a romance, it's creepy!' Please tell me at lease one person told her that!

*sigh* I'm so sick of these whole 'I can change him, Mama!' stories where the girl leeches onto the creep brainwashes her. Man, do we need some kind of writer revolt or revolution or what? :D

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Date: 2011-06-09 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
"How did the author even come up with this idea? Someone must have taken her aside when she read this out to them and said 'you can't publish this as a romance, it's creepy!' Please tell me at lease one person told her that!"

I'm going to go into it in more detail later, but from what Fitzpatrick says, she originally began the story as a rough outline with Nora, Vee as her bitchy frenemy, and the totally human but bad boy Patch harassing her in Biology. Five years later, she finally got it down the way she wanted. She decided that Patch actually had a secret and that his secret is that he's a fallen angel, which she describes as "the ultimate bad boy".

In other words, the only reason it got published was probably because she changed him from being a human abusive jerk to being an abusive jerk who was not human. Twilight cash-in. -_-

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Date: 2012-02-04 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpeggio513.livejournal.com
You know Patch reminds me of the kind of Angel you'd encounter in one of the SMT games...this is a bad thing because pretty much every being, Divine or Infernal, are complete assholes.

Though I guess it's to much to hope he turns out to be ugly as sin, physically I mean, he's already there character wise and is speeding on down the line lower and lower. I can already see him go careening off the Moral Event Horizen. It's only a matter of time.

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Date: 2012-02-13 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ng55snarkings.livejournal.com
I'm not familiar with Supernatural myself, but I too would love to see Castiel teach this so-called angel a lesson.

Two chapters in, I already HATE Patch. ...Wait, I couldn't stand him in the first chapter, either! But now I really want to punch him.

Where in the right mind did the author think that writing such a harassing douchebag was ROMANTIC?

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Date: 2012-07-02 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marionros.livejournal.com
I haven't read this book (nor will I ever!!), but I enjoy the sporking of foul narcissistic wankage (such as the 'Harry Potter' series) or the glorification of female stupidity and male abuse (such as the 'Twilight' series). This book apparantly falls under the latter.

Still...

Okay... So Patch is a creepy jerk, and apparantly he is the same creepy jerk that mindraped Chauncey in the prologue, which makes him a 'supernatural' creepy jerk (since he's been around for at least four centuries).

So he's a fallen angel. Fallen angels are *demons* (remember Lucifer?), so his ability to attract-while-creeping-out isn't all that surprising. That's what demons are famed for, after all. 'The devil made me do it', etc.

So, since Patch (am I revealing my age when I say that the name reminds me of nothing but Dudley Moore's 'Patch the Elf' in 'Santa Claus The Movie'?) is a demon, it isn't surprising that he can 'arrange' things, such as sitting next to his victim in biology/sex ed class. He's the ultimate Svengali, right? He can MAKE 'Coach' deaf and blind to whatever Nora says. He can theaten, bully and rape Nora and STILL she would think him 'irresistable' simply because he mindfucks with people.

So far, this story makes sense.

The problem (I surmise, since I haven't actually read this book, but I'm willing to bet MY laptop that this is so) is not that Patch is a jerk, and that Nora is strangely attracted to the creep who, well, creeps her out. The problem is (again, I surmise) that it is stated nor implied anywhere in this book that this is due to Patch mindfucking with her, and that this is actually WRONG and CREEPY.
The problem is that this plot, which is essentially a standard horror story, is presented as Teh Ultimate Romance, which is just plain scary!!

So please tell me that I'm wrong. Please tell me that at the the end of the book Nora realises that she has been fucked around with by an demon and, I dunno, she sprinkles him with holy water or something ("I'm melting! I'm melting!!").

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Date: 2012-08-02 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mibamonster.livejournal.com
'and he says that she did.'
Combined with how he knows all those things about her and is making her go somewhere she obviously hasn't been before... RUN NORA, RUN!

and I do know where it's going. I hate you, author. And I hate you, Stephenie Meyer, for making me expect the worst from literary heroes (even when they deserve it).

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Date: 2013-06-13 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribal-goddess.livejournal.com
I've made the executive decision to stop reading this for now (because of Patch, not you,) but god this book is scary. In some ways it's worse than Twilight, because Patch does not even have a thin veneer of supposed charm. The fact that this is being marketed to young girls makes me sick, especially given that the market for paranormal teen romance goes down to girls as young as nine. I don't really have any more words for how wrong this is other than that shooting Patch in the face would be an excellent idea and that Becca Fitzpatrick can go suck hairy monkey nuts.

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Date: 2013-06-28 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
Given that it only gets creepier from here on out, this is a good place to stop the train and get off.

And I second the motion of shooting Patch. Or shanking him with an angelic blade.
Edited Date: 2013-06-28 10:44 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-07-02 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribal-goddess.livejournal.com
I find it telling that the addition of Winchesters killing the supposed love interest would improve most Paranormal "Romance."

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Date: 2015-01-31 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leaf-drop.livejournal.com
Can I just point this out? If Nora is such a smart, straight-A student like Fitzpatrick insists via info-dumping, why would one minor assignment like this screw her grade up? I understand that at the beginning of every semester, if you screw up, it fucks your grade up massively. That's because you have no other assignments to counter that bad score, and it's difficult to pull your grade up if you screw up early on. But we're told it's April. They're four months into the semester with only one month left. Again I reiterate, one stupid assignment (and since this assignment is literally just asking your partner questions about themselves, I can't see this assignment being any more than five points at the most) should not drop Nora's grade by any more than a point of a percent if she fails to turn it in.

That is just really, really sloppy writing on Fitzpatrick's behalf. The fact that Nora compromises her own safety over a stupid assignment makes me hate Nora 1000x more. I know that her drive to get her assignment done is mostly because she wants to be near Patch, but that's just extremely stupid and doesn't even make sense. All we've seen is that Patch is an insulting creeper, and he ruffles Nora every time they have a discussion. Realistically speaking, what person would want to take the time out of their day for someone who just pisses them off? Stupid, just stupid.
Edited Date: 2015-01-31 10:39 pm (UTC)

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