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Originally posted by [livejournal.com profile] ashchan01 (AKA The Lusty Wench) at How can you tell if the man your mother is dating online is a scammer?
My mom had met this guy, named Michael Goodman, from Illinois on Pogo.com in August. I am suspicious of the whole thing for several reasons:

1) She's never actually met him, and he is not willing to come to our city to meet her or even give her a round-trip ticket to go there (He claims that he's too busy working). Instead, he has been talking about packing up all her stuff and moving her there by next year. Not even four months into their relationship, which started almost as soon as they started talking online, and he is already talking about getting married in the coming summer. It seems really rushed to me, especially because he has only talked to her on the phone and online.

2) Not only does my mom not live in the same state as him, she also is 16 years older than him. The fact that he is choosing to date her, as opposed to someone in his age and area, boggles my mind, especially since she is in her fifties and he in his late thirties. On top of that, she is mentally ill, and I am certain he is aware of this. Not exactly typical behavior.

3) The information she's told me about him sounds very similar to her three previous online relationships, where they all turned out to be scammers. She says she has talked to his family and that they are completely supportive, yet she had talked to her last e-boyfriend's family. He claims to be a widower with a young child, and so did her last guy. Of course, her last boyfriend had asked her for a $300 money order, and that tipped me off as to his game. She still did not suspect anything until I and my grandfather had convinced her of the truth, granddad having done some investigating into his background.

4) He apparently has dated other women online, one of which cussed my mother out on Pogo and was trying to cause problems for her.

I'm really worried. I love my mother, and my gut feeling tells me that something is really off on his end of the situation. I suspect that he will try to take advantage of her, and don't know what I can do to find out the truth about this guy. Does anyone have any ideas? Any information would be appreciated, especially if anyone has heard of e-scammers in Illinois before. My email is ashchan01@hotmail.com. If you guys need more information, I would be happy to email it to you.

ZeldaQueen: Guys, if anyone has any information on this, please share. If you can't reach The Lusty Wench's original post or if her e-mail isn't working, tell me and I'll pass it on to her.

Thank you, everyone.

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From: [identity profile] ashchan01.livejournal.com
News update: She is now saying she's going by train after Christmas, and that he's buying the ticket.
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
Did you tell her about the information you got, about the other people being scammed and other evidence that he's not good news?

If you did, and she's bent on going anyway, the best I can think of is to make sure that someone is able to check in on her. Is there anyway to get someone to go with her? A friend or a relative?

If not, make certain to keep in touch with her at regular intervals. Come up with designated times to call and talk with her. Make sure she has a means for you to contact her reliably.

(no subject)

Date: 2012-12-01 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashchan01.livejournal.com
I did. I even sent her the links. Whether or not she reads em is a different matter. I don't know, ZeldaQueen. I swear, I am at wits end over this whole thing. It's stressing me out big time.

(no subject)

Date: 2012-12-01 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelda-queen.livejournal.com
*hugs* I understand. You're really doing great though.

If it's after Christmas, you at least have some time to work. Use the links Gehayi sent you. If you can prove that he's scammed people before, it's possible you can report him to someone. Even if he doesn't get arrested it might stop him from contacting your mother, which is probably the best solution right now.

Try also contacting the people in charge of the scam groups you were linked to. At the very least, they should be able to give you advice on what to do. You can also see if any of the previous people conned by Martin/Michael Goodman would be willing to compare notes with you. Again, you prove that he is the same person who scammed them and is likely scamming your mother, you'll have evidence to get him banned from websites and whatever else you can manage. If you and the other people are able to collectively make complaints, it will also add weight to your voice.

Finally, see if there are other people in your family to help you out. Even if it's just one other person, they can help with the stress. The important thing is to make sure that your mom doesn't give this guy money or personal information, and the more people knowing what to look for, the less likely it is she'll be able to do that.

Do your best, and hang in there! *hugs again*

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